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aitor11
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Hello, reading all the things here, im wondering if my 4:12 trans is good for the 1905 or maybe 2110 that im thinking to assemble next year?, now i have a 1600 sp with a kadron kit, and i use the car on weekends, mostly on the city but some times we make like 500 km in the highway.
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gerico
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Location: Carlsbad, CA
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I just reviewed the posts and don't see any mention of a $2500 budget but it should still be possible.
Perhaps a rebuilt 1915 short block from Serranos, a set of heads from Darren at DRD, and a used set of 40 dells from Samba. Sounds like he's got most of the other required bits and pieces. Certainly not the optimal setup but would probably be well under $2500 and still get over 110hp with something like a 110 or 120 cam and 8.5:1 - 9:1 compression. Would definitely need a 1700lb clutch and a light throttle foot to keep from trashing a stock trans.
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MConstable
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Location: Saint Charles IL
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Did anybody read the guys $2500 budget? 
Your all thousands over it.
Just a FI system or a full turbo set up could swallow the whole budget.  |
Don't see a budget on any of his posts?
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krusher
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Did anybody read the guys $2500 budget?
Your all thousands over it.
Just a FI system or a full turbo set up could swallow the whole budget. |
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jamestwo
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Real sweet, price the parts and you will see it's a super deal.
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I saw that too. It's a pretty sweet deal! |
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Loopole
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| dont mean to hijack, 2110, as i have from chico, and down the road, the turbo to go with my a-1 header, which would wrap around under the bell housing into a muffler on the driver side, and the new cb efi system, pretty vague i know, but a little daydreaming and you get the idea. |
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Yellowbeard
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150hp shot of No2 would do it.  |
I fail to see how nitrogen dioxide could help you go fast. Nitrous oxide, on the other hand...
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| Thanks. Thread went from me not being able to understand what Ipis was saying because English is obviously not his first language to me not being able to understand it because English is my first language |
Fuel pumps galore:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=845378 |
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thevanillaninja
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Location: Scott, IL
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Turbo EFI 2110. Reliable stroker, reliable TUNEABLE fuel injection (tune in-car anyone?)
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74bug
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| 150hp shot of No2 would do it. |
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stan_tichomirov
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If I were looking for a motor to be built and shipped, I would go with Darren. He is very cool and goes out of his way to help. I wish I lived closer to his shop..
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John M.
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I saw that too. It's a pretty sweet deal! |
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MConstable
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stan_tichomirov
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Since you mentioned not doing the engine work yourself, do you have a builder in mind yet? Would you prefer to build it locally or have the engine shipped? I think that may have some influence on your choices.
I am building a 2110 with 40IDFs. It won't have alot of HP, but should have good torque at low RPM range, and will be upgradabe for more power if I were to look for more later. I chose to go bigger now rather than staying stock stroke. This is for a street-only '70 Beetle.
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krusher
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The problem is you have asked a question that the answer could be the writings of a whole book. Very hard to give a short simple answer.
Its all very complicated becuase its a matter of efficienty, for example you could have a 2.0 that makes 75hp and one that makes 150hp, it all depends on the parts that you match together as an engine combo.
A 1776 starts to top out at about 100hp on the street tune relibility front so your gonna want bigger than that.
So were talking 1915 up.
I realy cant explain without writing a small book, so have a look here at http://www.steelbuggin.com/ the turnkey section.
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EXITSTRATEGY
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out of a 2.1 wbx?
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Mr. T
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| depends on heads and parts selection...I am working on an engine build up very similar to the one that racerdave mentions. I have some VERY nice heads on the way, and they will work with the FK-8 engle cam and 1.4:1 rockers. It all depends on the heads... |
I'd say heads that can place it within my HP range. Like I said I'm a HP noob... 
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millerje78
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depends on heads and parts selection...I am working on an engine build up very similar to the one that racerdave mentions. I have some VERY nice heads on the way, and they will work with the FK-8 engle cam and 1.4:1 rockers. It all depends on the heads...
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Mr. T
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Here's my recipe
78X90.5 = 2007cc
043 P/P 40X35.5 heads
W120 cam
Dual 44 IDF
That should get 120+ Hp and be able to drive across the country. |
That sounds solid, what would I expect to pay for something like this?
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vwracerdave
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Here's my recipe
78X90.5 = 2007cc
043 P/P 40X35.5 heads
W120 cam
Dual 44 IDF
That should get 120+ Hp and be able to drive across the country.
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Mr. T
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i thought he was asking what specific kinds of mods can get into that horsepower range. it's my question. (someday i'll get my 70' back together...) where does the horsepower come from? what's the hp gain-range per part?
bore,stroke,cam,rocker,ignition-systems,port/polish, valve-size, carb, exhaust, turbo, supercharger, nitrous, gear-ratios, tires? |
From the information I'm getting here, besides having a good case for reliability, heads are what make the engine. Assuming there are decent parts for engine A and B a good set of heads that are matched to the engine will always be best.
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