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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Distributors and Dealers books Reply with quote

A point of reference I found tonight:
I have an owner's manual packet for a Beetle with a VIN # from 12/1955

It has:
An Owner's Manual dated: 8/1955
A dealers & distributors book marked: 7/58a
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Distributors and Dealers books Reply with quote

My current list of dealers and distributors books.

The first three are not dated, 7/58 is an item number.

The ones with question marks are a couple that I think may possibly exist. They also might not exist. They represent the largest gaps in printing dates.

There are four styles through late 1967. I don't have enough of the 5th style which goes from late 1967 into the '80s to publish info on them yet, and I put very little effort into collecting them, so don't expect anything anytime soon on them.

Starting on the second publication of the third style, they have two dates, one in the front, one in the back. Sometimes they don't quite line up.

If anyone has something not on this list, please post it up. Also, please sell or trade it to me. I have plenty of spares to trade. I posted a wanted ad for ones that I need and ones that I have to trade.

7/58
7/58
7/58a
7/58a 3.56
7/58a 9.56
7/58b 4.57
7/58b 11.57
????? 8 month gap
7/58b 7.58 (last of the first style)

7/58b IV 58
313 021 21 * I/59
313 021 21 * II/59
313 022 21 * III/59
313 023 21 * IV/59
313 024 21 * I/60
313 025 21 * II/60
313 026 21 * III/60
313 027 21 * IV/60
313 028 21 * I/61
313 028 21 * II/61
313 028 21 * III/61
313 028 21 * IV/61
313 028 21 * I/62 (Last of the second style)

5-62-120m
8-62/85m back 1962 front
1-63/85m back 1962 front
1-63/85m back april 15, 1963 front (misprint in back should be 4-63)
7-63/103m back june 17, 1963 front
11-63/103m back november 4, 1963 front
1-64/103m back january 10, 1964 front
6-64/103m back may 8, 1964 front
8-64/103m back july 10, 1964 front
11-64/103m back october 15, 1964 front
1/65/111m back january 15, 1965 front
5-65/125m back march 31, 1965 front
7-15/125m back july 15, 1965 front
10-15-65-33-00-56020 back oct. 15, 1965 front
2-10-66-33-00-56020 back feb. 1, 1966 front
???? 6 month gap
8-10-66-33-00-56020 back aug. 1, 1966 front
11-10-66-33-00-56020 back nov. 1, 1966 front (last of the third style)

3-67 33-00-56020 back feb. 15, 1967 front (first of the fourth style)

8-67 (fifth style)
11-67 33-00-56020 back november 1, 1967 front
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Distributors and Dealers books Reply with quote

I added a few more books to the master list in the first post of this thread.

If anyone has one that is not listed there, please let me know so I can add it
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Distributors and Dealers books Reply with quote

No vehicle photos, there is an illustration of a Beetle/Chassis separated. Adding a few pics here and there. This book would have pretty much outlined what you would need to get into place to build, staff and operate a new VW Dealership. Don't suppose a 92 page book would get you set up to run a new dealership, in 2018!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Distributors and Dealers books Reply with quote

ALLWAGONS wrote:
I've seen those same pictures in a very early Der Berater brochures.


Good catch, it makes sense they would re-use some photos as needed.

Here's the Der Berater section on the site if anyone wants to compare photos or see it:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/berater.php
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: Distributors and Dealers books Reply with quote

I've seen those same pictures in a very early Der Berater brochures.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: Distributors and Dealers books Reply with quote

I have never seen that particular one or one that early but it looks very cool!

Are there any vehicle photos in it too?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Distributors and Dealers books Reply with quote

I have this book, in German from 1950. It would translate roughly to Dealership Organization. This seems to be the nearest topic thread for these sorts of items and I can't seem to find anything like it. Has anyone seen anything like this? It's hardcover and was brought to Canada by a German trained VW mechanic.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats the one A friend years ago told me about an original bug in A barn in Elk river,in the Eureka area and I think thats the same car.Also can you see about the original purchase date I think the car had A very good paper trail with it, Thanks again Kevin
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kevhum wrote:
Thank you for the info.I think I know of the bug you are talking about.If it's the one I'm thinking of I met the owner they had it in town ,I know he sold it out of the area maybe through the samba? Any ways the car was brown and very original.The same car use to be owned by A past member of the local club. As for the license plate frames I remember them being A different style than most of the Redwood motor ones I've seen. if you can I would love to see pics of those frames as time allows.



Kevin, yep, sounds like the same car, here is the only pic of it I have at the moment, and I think its the pic from the sale add. Crappy 60's repaint, but other than that a real nice car.


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I talked to him about the car last night, and the car is in storage safe and sound where its been pretty much since he bought it Other than stripping the wheels back down to its original paint he has done nothing else to the car. Niether he nor I have any pics of the plate frames, but as I remember they were really cool early style frames. Ill try and bug him for some frame pics.....
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the info.I think I know of the bug you are talking about.If it's the one I'm thinking of I met the owner they had it in town ,I know he sold it out of the area maybe through the samba? Any ways the car was brown and very original.The same car use to be owned by A past member of the local club. As for the license plate frames I remember them being A different style than most of the Redwood motor ones I've seen. if you can I would love to see pics of those frames as time allows. As for the dealer not being listed in your dealer book from what I'm seeing there was A change of name somewhere between 57 and 58 from Herman motors to Redwood motors.It's looking like Herman motors was started maybe mid year 57 and the name was changed in 58. I'm going back to the library to search fictitious business statements to see if I could narrow it down. On Another little interesting note The person listed as secretary and treasurer of redwood motors in the 59 directory by the name of Eberle Schultz was A professional football player in the late 40s,he played for the LA Rams for A few years amongst other teams He is listed in Wikipedia .Once again thanks for your time and information ,Kevin
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kevhum, my best friend is the 3rd owner of an all original 58 that was sold at Redwood motors in Eureka.
It still has on it the Redwood motors original plate frames front and rear. On another note, I checked and in my 4/57 printed 58 dealer booklet, and there is no Eureka dealer listed.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everett,thank you for the information thats what I'm looking for.Also the year 58 has yet to be added to the list of dealers,Kevin
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since you are asking about 1958, the names are listed in the dealer section of the site:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/usa_dealers_ca1.php

I checked & I found another book in my stack of stuff that is not on the site yet though

The book is IV 1958 (Fourth Quarter 1958) and it lists Redwood Motors
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Everett,I was wondering if I could borrow your time.I have been researching the vw dealers in my area,I live in Eureka Calif I was wondering if there is any updates on the dealers in this area for 1958. I have been looking at old city directory's at the local library.It shows Herman motors as A vw dealer in 1957,It shows no dealers in Eureka in 1958, but I did find A name affleated with Hermans motors listed as An empoyee of redwood motors in 1958. This is the year that I was wondering if you have A update for.The local dealer changed names from 1957 to 1958 from Hermans motors to Redwood motors.I was wondering what name shows up in the 1958 publication. Any help would be appreciated as time allows ,good day Kevin
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, we have only added the listing through 1967 or so, except for some random dealers here & there.

The post-67 books are much larger so we haven't spent the time and made the page modification necessary to enter that data.

The later books are also quite common & cheap so if you want to check out a particular area, I'd pick one up.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:30 am    Post subject: Distributors and Dealers books Reply with quote

Ev; Got anything from '71 yet? I'm looking for a vintage L/P frame from an authorized MI VW dealer from that specific year. e.g. Bushouse (Battle Creek) would be OK, but Nichols would not (I worked at Bushouse in college).

It appears your current list only goes up to late 60's. Or am I missing something?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Located a July 1, 1968 book recently. I updated my list in the first post of this thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Located a II/59 book recently. I updated my list in the first post of this thread.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Located a IV/58 book today. I updated my list in the first post of this thread.

This is also the earliest book I have that is dated with a quarter date:
IV / Fourth quarter
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