fog light mounting

[Brian]

Yea, I'd go blind if I turned on my led bar in the fog. The filtered amber isn't as hard on the eyes when it's being reflected right back at you.
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[SGKent]

[telford dorr]

There's what's legal, and there's what's right:

Fog lamps work by shooting a short, wide beam of light UNDER the fog layer, which usually doesn't go all the way to the ground. This short beam of light will illuminate objects in the distance, as the fog doesn't interfere as much. (The color of the light has nothing to do with it, i.e. white works better than yellow).

This is why real fog lamps should be mounted as low as possible. Unfortunately, this can make them vulnerable to damage. If you have them mounted at the same level as the headlights, they're doing you no good.

Having the headlights on at the same time defeats the purpose of having fog lamps as the glare from the headlamps negates any advantage of the fog lamps (as Nigel states).

You can solve this problem with a 'secret" switch to allow the use of fog lamps without headlamps when you really need them, yet still have them normally operate only with headlamps for inspection purposes...

And yes, having a rear (red, low mounted) fog lamp is a very good idea. For some reason, they're not normally installed (or available, even) over here in the New World...
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[NASkeet]

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[samwise]

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[Kirk]

This is a really old thread. Welcome back Nigel, oh yee of the technical knowledge. Glad you found internet again. Those fog lights are crazy expensive IMO. I'll stick with my Hellas.

Random gratuitous pic of my fog light placement.

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[jtauxe]

Wow. For $250 the pair, you'd think they could at least get the logo in the middle of the lens right side up!
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[Bay74]

anyone have a picture of one of these on a bus:

http://www.800luvbugg.com/shop?frame=5.169.6038


I like the look of it.
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[WestyPop]

Couldn't agree more. Always good to observe & tap into informed intelligence from other parts of the global VW Bay bus community. Also sounds like U.K. lighting laws make more sense than ours.

As for any perceived political bantering, it isn't, since that's outside the Samba guidelines. Still, the Brits are driving on the wrong side of the road... !

J.R.
68 Westy
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[Bajatacoma]

Dang guys- I'm pretty sure Nigel was just kidding around. Personally I'd like to see some pictures of his bus, it sounds like he's put some good thought and effort into it.
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[WestyPop]

NASkeet writes: "Here in the civilised part of the World... "

Yes, Nigel, but we Yanks have a bit of a problem in dealing not so much with a lack of civility, but rather with those not possessing of strong survival instincts, let alone a reasonable amount of intelligence: dead or alive ... they represent a large profit center.

You see, our large corporations make so much money off all the consumers, oops... citizens... no, that doesn't fit either; well off everyone, that there's great resistance to actually basing driver's license on ability and demonstrable skill. Such a 'weeding out', so to speak, of those who would be better off with a bus schedule and a pocket-full of tokens, would drop the profits of oil companies (BP included!), vehicle manufacturers, the insurance industry, and the parts & accessory supply chains, not to mention the huge highway/road construction industry's biggest corporations.

Strict vehicle equipment regulations and enforcement would also penalize many industries by keeping millions of vehicles off the road. California, our most populous state, and likely the state with the most vehicles per capita, has (like many states) no safety inspection for vehicle registration renewal. Hence we have many vehicles, of all ages, traveling along with one headlight aimed at the curb, while the other seems to be searching for new planets. Taillights can number 1, 2, 3, or missing altogether; with the common colors: red, amber, white, green, blue, or purple. Turn signals are rarely used by a rapidly growing portion of the motoring public, or not activated until the turn is actually 50% completed.

The common practice here, when a headlight's low beam filament burns out, is to just 'switch on the high beams'. Same goes for the blue-bulb fanciers, once they've noticed that their trendy new additions actually give less, not more, visibility... switch 'em on high & roll.

So, ya' see, Nigel, with your rigid safety rules & specific inspections for MOT approval, let alone careful screening of driver's license applicants in the interest of the public good, are really hurting the opportunities of corporations to make bigger profits, including, of course, the funeral industry. Not surprising, however, for a country that offers universal health care, and subsidizes the commuter rapid transit services. Bloody socialists.

Personally, of course, I only have European lighting on my vehicles, so that they won't be mistaken for Dodge Caravans, Ford Escorts, or other American vehicles (hecho en Mexico, no doubt?). Pure snobbishness. Safety... couldn't care less.

Oh, and you can expect those tax & tea payments from the U.S. right after the Archbishop of Canterbury passes the offering plate collections since Henry VIII on over to the Pope!

Cheers.

J.R.
68 Westy
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[Patrick199]

"...so the "so-called USA", still owes the British Crown, slightly more than 230 year's worth of back taxes, interest payments and associated punitive fines for long-term non payment..."

I'm pretty sure the "so-called USA" paid back any and all debt when our fathers and grandfathers saved your arses back in the forties. Back taxes my ass.