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grandpa pete
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grandpa pete
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| Wayne S. Johnson wrote: |
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Cool Thanks !
I'm working on a barter for a COMPLETE ;WORKING system that is coming out of a 67....
I'm reading and viewing videos ...Most u tube videos are 4 to 6 years old . Thanks for current information . |
A used EV can be a good way to save money and get a system with compatible components. Also knowing the system performance of the setup is a great plus. However, not all EV designs perform to reasonable expectations.
What are the main components?
1. Motor
2. Controller
3. Battery pack voltage
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I haven't even seen it yet...lust getting enough info so I know what I am getting into...thks for helping
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Wayne S. Johnson
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| grandpa pete wrote: |
Cool Thanks !
I'm working on a barter for a COMPLETE ;WORKING system that is coming out of a 67....
I'm reading and viewing videos ...Most u tube videos are 4 to 6 years old . Thanks for current information . |
A used EV can be a good way to save money and get a system with compatible components. Also knowing the system performance of the setup is a great plus. However, not all EV designs perform to reasonable expectations.
What are the main components?
1. Motor
2. Controller
3. Battery pack voltage
4. Charger
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grandpa pete
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Wayne S. Johnson
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What would you like to convert to an EV?
Here are a few information resources.
http://public.fotki.com/WAYNEWANG/
http://www.evdl.org/
http://www.evalbum.com/
http://www.evalbum.com/1798
http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/
http://onegreenev.blogspot.com/
My '68 Electric Beetle:
This is my 1968 Electric Beetle, which was converted to operate on 100% electric power in 1979. The cost of charging the batteries is 2 cents per mile. It has three 120/240 Volt built in chargers. Top speed 85 MPH, range 60-80 miles. The battery pack is 144 Volts, controller 1,000 Amps, which produces 140 ft lbs of motor torque. The battery pack capacity is 24 kWh. Battery heaters improve the performance and range with the pack temperature at 80° F. Electric space heaters provide heat through the heating and window defroster vents.
Features:
Dual sensor battery heating system
Sealed battery boxes with blowers
On board charger 2,400 VA, PF 0.98, 120 VAC
Programmable charger algorithm with equalization mode
Auto scan digital thermometer with 6 inputs
Power Amp, 600 Watts, 4 Ch, 12 speakers, MP3 player, FM
Lightened flywheel
Din rail power panel
Front disc brakes
Front and rear coilover shocks
Upgraded rear Torsion Bars
Intermittent wiper motor controller with washer pump
Dual horns
Electric cars are very quiet; it’s a good idea to have a pedestrian warning device while parking your EV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klL75Kqjd6c
Beetle conversion '66
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kNzsh4_NqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vTdlsu_3ZQ
Solar charging at home
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jwold
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What happens if the elcetric motor gets wet on these EV conversions?
Do they just fritz out and short circuit? |
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Wayne S. Johnson
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| That is sweet, is this your daily, and whats the range? Gas prices dont phase you huh? |
My Electric Bug is my daily driver. The range is 65 miles and I charge it for FREE at several locations.
Where can you get FREE GAS?
Some people charge at work and drive over 100 miles a day. I drive about 15 miles a day (450 miles a month), which cost me $9 for power each month. I charged at the park and Costco today, which saved me about 15 cents off my daily cost of 30 cents.
My Electric Bug has not been in a gas station for the last 29 years.
Here are some additional pictures and information. http://www.evalbum.com/1798 |
How many years do you get out of batteries? That seems to be the one thing left out of these otherwise seductive statistics. 30 cents a day is nice, but the cost of batteries is a fair chunk of change upfront. |
The cost to replace the batteries is about 50 cents a day or $1,200 every 7 years. The cost of maintenance on my pickup was more than $1,200 in the last 7 years and gas for 38,325 miles is $11,500, at $4.50 a gallon. EV charging cost for 38,325 miles is $766.
Gas / Electric Vehicle Cost Comparison
http://www.ccds.charlotte.nc.us/~jarrett/EV/cost.php
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I charge it for FREE at several locations.
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Do the folks who pay those electric bills know about this?  |
When the batteries run low, FREE charging stations can be found at many businesses including some Ralphs grocery stores, Costco stores and Hilton Hotels. Maps of FREE recharging locations, http://www.eaaev.org/eaaevcharging.html
Roll into the parking lot of Costco and pull up in front of two chargers. Bright green signs read "Electric Vehicle Parking Only." Nearly every Costco store has a pair of chargers in its lot, or plans to install them soon. The company is committed to creating an unbroken string of chargers up and down California for electric car drivers.
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| That is sweet, is this your daily, and whats the range? Gas prices dont phase you huh? |
My Electric Bug is my daily driver. The range is 65 miles and I charge it for FREE at several locations.
Where can you get FREE GAS?
Some people charge at work and drive over 100 miles a day. I drive about 15 miles a day (450 miles a month), which cost me $9 for power each month. I charged at the park and Costco today, which saved me about 15 cents off my daily cost of 30 cents.
My Electric Bug has not been in a gas station for the last 29 years.
Here are some additional pictures and information. http://www.evalbum.com/1798 |
How many years do you get out of batteries? That seems to be the one thing left out of these otherwise seductive statistics. 30 cents a day is nice, but the cost of batteries is a fair chunk of change upfront. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: Electric Bug |
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I charge it for FREE at several locations.
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Do the folks who pay those electric bills know about this? |
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Wayne S. Johnson
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| That is sweet, is this your daily, and whats the range? Gas prices dont phase you huh? |
My Electric Bug is my daily driver. The range is 65 miles and I charge it for FREE at several locations.
Where can you get FREE GAS?
Some people charge at work and drive over 100 miles a day. I drive about 15 miles a day (450 miles a month), which cost me $9 for power each month. I charged at the park and Costco today, which saved me about 15 cents off my daily cost of 30 cents.
My Electric Bug has not been in a gas station for the last 29 years.
Here are some additional pictures and information. http://www.evalbum.com/1798
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I used front and rear coil over shocks in my 68 Bug electric conversion. This Bug was converted to electric 29 years ago, the front and rear coil over shocks were installed a few months ago.
The 68 owner’s manual specifies permissible load weight at 838 lbs. and gross vehicle weight at 2,645 lbs. My Bug gross vehicle is at 3,380 lbs. including driver.
Stinking Gas report;
5/30/08, San Jose, CA $4.25
My GMC Sierra has a 32 gallon tank, total cost to fill the tank is $136. At 2 cents per mile, my Electric Bug can travel a distance of 6,800 miles for $136 of electricity.
That means you can drive an Electric Bug from San Francisco to Key West, FL and back for the cost of ONE tank of gas.
Wayne
See how you can convert a Beetle to run on electric power.
http://public.fotki.com/WAYNEWANG/electric-car-beetle-ev-/
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That is sweet, is this your daily, and whats the range? Gas prices dont phase you huh?
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If you don't need more than 20-30 miles of range or are willing to pony up for NiMH or LiPo batteries, you can use the whole interior of the bug. You could put the batteries in the trunk and around the motor in the engine bay; I know others have done that successfully. I got away with just the trunk.
Hell, you could probably get some batteries behind the back seat if you needed to.  |
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| My husband and I have a 70 beetle that we are thinking of converting to electric, but I was just curious if there was a way to do it where the back seat would be usable and not full of batteries. |
This Bettle seats 4 and the range is about 20 to 30 miles. Adding more batteries in the rear seat area would allow you to get about 50 to 60 miles range.
Manitou Springs High School, as of November 2002 almost 500 Drivers Ed. students have driven Sparky. We are sporting the tallest trophy at Manitou High School, for first place at a car show. Sparky has also received a clean air award from the city of Colorado Springs. We are the only school in the state with an electric car.
http://www.evalbum.com/135
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| My husband and I have a 70 beetle that we are thinking of converting to electric, but I was just curious if there was a way to do it where the back seat would be usable and not full of batteries. |
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| also i thought of the idea of hooking a generator up to a moving part on the car. like a custom gear like part that's hooked to an axel or tire. i know it wouldnt charge much but everything counts. |
This was already asked.
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is there a way to hook a alternator('s) up to charge the batterys as you go along? if you could get the car to 'self charge" you would really have something....not that you don't now but it would-could be alot better i think if you could use the energy of the moving car to resupply your supply  maybe??? |
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