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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think we'll ever see a lightweight, mechanically simple, door-removable, windscreen-foldable, top-removable, no-roll-bar, no-three-point-safety-belts, bare bones vehicle introduced into the US market unless it's an LSV/NEV. The safety bureaucrats have spoken and cars have to be safe now. Safety adds weight and complexity. By the time VW would meet all the safety hurdles, the replacement Thing would be the size and weight of a Jeep.

There's a market outside the US, but it's unlikely that VW will ever go after it, because even then, it's pretty small with a lot of competition already in place.

It's a shame, I would have liked to see a successor to the 183 Iltis that had metal removable doors with roll-up windows.

But, back to the LSV/NEV, I do think there's a marketplace for one of these with the ugly cuteness and versitility of the Thing. In fact, if there was one, I'd probably buy it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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my $.02. retro is in, but it probably only has about 10 years maybe 20 left in the automotive industry. the mustang was a hit but its already diverging from its retro styling, the mini was a huge hit, the new beetle (girl car with flower vase aside) was a pretty good hit. VW probably squandered the first gen new beetle with pastel colors and girlishness and the GTI only had retro plaid inside. VW is still a less reliable japanese car that is trying to take on Audi and BMW with crap like the CC and Phaton isntead of hitting the retro trend with affordable yet enjoyable driving cars.

but on the other hand lets look at failed retros. the camaro is an ugly turd, the GTO was an aussie car with a badge, the charger is an ugly turd, the T-bird from a few years back was a limp d*ck, Jeep is self destructing itself (TJ with round headlights was spot on) the JK is an oversized/underpowered/lame mini hummer, the HHR wtf was that?, FJ cruiser is cool/capable but its way way overpriced and packed with driver hindering electronics, umm fiat 500 no one cared about then or now.

might as well mention ford GT and mercedes sls but no one here can afford one unless its a poster to hang over your bed to diddle yourself to at night.

my point is retro is a big big gamble after you factor in modern safety, fuel economy, and all the tards that are the mass market automakers have to play to. what made all these vehicles cool was the originality of their designs when they were new and fresh on the market.



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember The Thing was an existing military vehicle that VW was already producing. It took little in additional investment to commercialize it. This also was done by circumventing safety rules - a loophole that quickly closed.

I doubt the volumes would be there to justify ground-up development. It would have to be a vehicle that could be esily extended off of an existing platform without cannabilizing the sales of the "host" platform.

I think it would be a longshot to see a new Thing. A retro car works by having a strong connection to the original. If VW did surprise everyone and produce a new Thing I cannot see them using the name again which would mean the connection would be lost to the original.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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just needs to be a four door convertible..
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my $.02. retro is in, but it probably only has about 10 years maybe 20 left in the automotive industry. the mustang was a hit but its already diverging from its retro styling, the mini was a huge hit, the new beetle (girl car with flower vase aside) was a pretty good hit. VW probably squandered the first gen new beetle with pastel colors and girlishness and the GTI only had retro plaid inside. VW is still a less reliable japanese car that is trying to take on Audi and BMW with crap like the CC and Phaton isntead of hitting the retro trend with affordable yet enjoyable driving cars.

but on the other hand lets look at failed retros. the camaro is an ugly turd, the GTO was an aussie car with a badge, the charger is an ugly turd, the T-bird from a few years back was a limp d*ck, Jeep is self destructing itself (TJ with round headlights was spot on) the JK is an oversized/underpowered/lame mini hummer, the HHR wtf was that?, FJ cruiser is cool/capable but its way way overpriced and packed with driver hindering electronics, umm fiat 500 no one cared about then or now.

might as well mention ford GT and mercedes sls but no one here can afford one unless its a poster to hang over your bed to diddle yourself to at night.

my point is retro is a big big gamble after you factor in modern safety, fuel economy, and all the tards that are the mass market automakers have to play to. what made all these vehicles cool was the originality of their designs when they were new and fresh on the market.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's so ugly it's...ugly! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wes.outside wrote:
Maybe this IS the new Thing...

http://www.mobiusmotors.com/prototype/


Pardon me for saying,..but it looks handicapped
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wes.outside wrote:
Maybe this IS the new Thing...

http://www.mobiusmotors.com/prototype/


That has some serious ugly going on.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe this IS the new Thing...

http://www.mobiusmotors.com/prototype/
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: What if the Thing was rereleased? Reply with quote

doublecanister wrote:
,,,Keep yer fingers crossed, it still could happen, Heck, they redid the Camaro and the Challenger!!,,,.
And Chrysler got two goverment bailouts and Chevy got one bailout.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject: Re: What if the Thing was rereleased? Reply with quote

BuddingAD wrote:
I'm working on an advertising thesis, so this is all in theory.

What I'm wondering is if VW decided to re-release the Thing- like they did with the Beetle, do you think there'd be a market for it?

Let's say it was pretty much the same as it was 25 years ago, with a few minor modernizations.

I really feel the Thing was ahead of it's time. the first compact SUV almost. And I think in today's market, it could be a fuel efficient fun alternative.

What do you fans think? Is it greatness factor based on its rarity or its over all fun factor?


Tis' a good question, I've met alot of folks who never seen a THING before and fell in love with it.
I just did a local Christmas parade, I had folks actually yelling, Hey it's a THING, or "look at that car" From 6year old Girl and Boy scouts to just folks watching about every 3 to 4 car lenghts some one said a postive comment.

So the "draw" is there, it's so ugly it's cute (as my wife says).

But you'd have to maintain the 'ugly' if they moderized it "too much"
it'd be a too different, youd' have to look at a New one and know right away, Hey that's a NEW THING Wow, I didnt know they still made them!

And the 'useability', removable doors, folding windshield, "Hose it out" like the old add's say, I know folks who'd love em for hunting vehicles, or beach cruzers.

4wd would be a nice option, but if it maintained the rear engine prob wouldnt need.

Theyd have to amp up some advertising to "learn' the public just what a THING used to be and what todays version is like (what we learned about Things in 37 years of research)

IF the price was right I'd buy one!

Keep yer fingers crossed, it still could happen, Heck, they redid the Camaro and the Challenger!!

Why not THINGS?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Semper_Dad wrote:
OMG,... a premature Hummer!


LOL!!!! Shocked Laughing Nice.....
I'm a HUGE HMMWV fan, i'm sure that pic came up in my research...
I've seen that pic a few times and Never noticed the Thing bits...

Well put Semper Dad! Blah..
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notice the "Earmuffed" hood. Lots of work and, hell, I may have to say it, I would "roll it" but, with a few alterations. It's amazing to me the trouble some will go through to be creative, sometimes actually successfully.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG,... a premature Hummer!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Poor little Thing. Confused http://www.azsolo.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7592
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bravo Applause

Now lose some of that pointy snout.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not sure what to think of that one. Its ugly, but not in a good way. Here it is with some flaws corrected.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doc*181 wrote:
The last Kubels were made upon 1980 as VW type 181 Kurierwagen (Courier car) in Mexico and imported to Germany. After a total of 140.768 cars made, this model was replaced by the VW Iltis. A next generation could look like this.[/i]


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Van-go108 wrote:

"Der letzte Kübel wurde bis 1980 als VW Typ 181 Kurierwagen in Mexiko (Puebla) hergestellt und nach Deutschland importiert. Nach insgesammt 140.768 Fahrzeuge wurde diese Modell von VW Iltis abgelöst. So könnte ein Nachfolger aussehen."

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The last Kubels were made upon 1980 as VW type 181 Kurierwagen (Courier car) in Mexico and imported to Germany. After a total of 140.768 cars made, this model was replaced by the VW Iltis. A next generation could look like this.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Van-go108 wrote:
Bump!?

Look what I found. Gawd, I hope not.
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"Der letzte Kübel wurde bis 1980 als VW Typ 181 Kurierwagen in Mexiko (Puebla) hergestellt und nach Deutschland importiert. Nach insgesammt 140.768 Fahrzeuge wurde diese Modell von VW Iltis abgelöst. So könnte ein Nachfolger aussehen."

Translation anyone?


Babelfish Says:

The last "excavator bucket" was manufactured until 1980 as VOLKSWAGEN type 181 courier cars in Mexico (Puebla) and imported to Germany. After 140,768 vehicles this model insgesammt(???) from VOLKSWAGEN Iltis was replaced. So a successor could look.

(You get the jist)

My Notes:
Looks a bit Amphibian.
The "New Beetle" started out as a "design exercise"
Needs a rollbar and softtop
And just when you thought it was funny watching us "old guys" climbing in and out of our original 181s. This one would give the younger pups a hard time
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