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Heiferman
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Here some more education (for the people who likes it)
First and second series of decklids had holes for the festoon bulbs. Like Dave (retrowagen) mentioned, the real early ones didn't have the Karmann ghia script. If you look carefully there is a dent for the airfilter and pressings in the upper part of the decklid
third style was still with the dent for the airfilter and with the pression.
Later there was a hole added in the lower left side of the decklid and two small drain holes at the left and right side on the botton
Next style had a larger holes and the pressings in the top partion disapperead
And after that the plastic rear tray appaired
Maybe I have missed a style, but this gives a nice overview.
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The number of clips for securing the harness to the license plate light also seems to have changed. Wit the later ones only seeming to have one clip. Would the harness not hang low over the engine/gen belt in that case?
Which of these decklids would correspond to the 65model? |
I am wondering if I have a different year deck lid or if VW split years. My 1970 has no removeable rain pan. But it is possible it has a replacement deck lid.
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 |
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No, I am sure about the screw connections..the 60 is for example the only one with the "new" backlight style but screw connections  
Bests
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That’s right.
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JeffL
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 |
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Thanks a lot for these informations ! Interesting as mine were on the ghia, fitting well and closing the door as they should I will of course search for the right one but I will search what these are for as I am curious
Antoine |
I bet the center could be 3D printed who can help?
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TRS63
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:25 am Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 |
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Short question:
Is this the right ignition switch for my 60:
? I guess yes, due to the screw connections but want to be sure before buying it.
Thanks!
Antoine |
I think 60 Ghias had push on connectors like Beetles. I think only buses started the 60 production year with screw and then mid year went to push on. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
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TRS63
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Ghias4ever
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 |
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The odd 2-piece door striker plates might be once introduced in 1961 (factory "Progressive Refinements" part 1, A-56, can be seen on TheSamba).
These catches can be also found on a very original car:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=688264&highlight=
My original comment in the above topic was incorrect and please disregard it. |
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TRS63
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Exnermobiles
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| Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 |
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When I bought my ’62 Ghia some 25 years ago it still had these door lock catches on it:
But time to time the doors were not locking properly and I found that strange brown “plastic” filler material was starting to peel off. Finally, I had to change them with those C -style repro catches.
Here the filler is completely gone:
Some years ago, I was happy to find these NOS catches here at Samba. They looked to be in great condition, and I wanted to replace the repros with the original type catches:
Very soon I learned that the filler on these NOS parts was also chunking off and I could not use them.
Here is also a picture of an article on the Road and Track magazine from March 1962 showing that this type of door lock catches was actually used on Karmann Ghia’s at some point. The car on the article is probably ’62 model because you can see the seatbelt mount on the tunnel.
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TRS63
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JeffL
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 |
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Well .... my March 1956 Ghia has an all plastic striker with a center rib. I'll have to find a good real picture but it does show it in the parts book. I think a 57 I had contained the similar ones. It is different than the one generalized as being used through 63 that contains metal.
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 |
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Hey Antoine, those don’t look Karmann. They used the same C style through 63, it’s very similar to what’s on my 63 B coupe Porsche.
https://airheadparts.com/vw-part/door-striker-plate-141-837-296/
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1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
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TRS63
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sputnick60
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Burman
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| Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 |
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Off course Patrik.
Great work you are doing.
Glad I could help 
/Jonas |
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pbaptist
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| Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 |
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That you Burman,
Can i use this pictures on the side and I will name you as contributor
Best
Patrick
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Burman
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| Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:33 am Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 |
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Yes Patrik - the waffle sunvisors did come in (at least) two versions.
Beige and grey. Here are some pics of my NOS grey and a used beige one.
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rhd 54
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| Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 |
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Thanks for you'r effort in doing this it makes for a great read  |
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pbaptist
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cafemiguel
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| Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: Karmann Ghia Progressive changes 1955–1974 |
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| Great thread. I don't have much knowledge of pre 67 and love learning more about the 12 volt era ghias |
The most amazing thing about knowledge is that when you actually get to understand whatever it is that you want to know, it's usually because you just paid an inordinate amount of money for something you suddenly realize you could have done it yourself; HOWEVER, please don't let my words stifle you, plant that seed and watch it grow. You have the interest, keep at it, you start out with the interest, then you find someone or a place and you like what you see (it's a VW), so you ask questions, you go see weekend shows, then you buy your first book ON THE SUBJECT; TIME AND MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT, BUT, YOU GAINED SOMETHING OUT OF IT; It takes time and real interest just to know a little about your favorite model. A very well known figure in building a better VW was Gene Berg, he built VW's to keep up with the Big Boys out on the American highways; hope my style doesn't disturb your computer; Good Luck! |
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