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240Gordy Samba Member

Joined: May 15, 2008 Posts: 2354 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Anybody use the Quicktune EFI kit with a WBXer? Do the intakes fit? _________________ Tencentlife said,
"So, now that you know what you're doing, go to town."
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1985 GL now with more! a 2.1L
H&R SPORT(RED) Springs FRONT , SLAM SPECIALTIES RE6 AIRBAGS REAR |
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scs2003 Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2011 Posts: 70 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:09 am Post subject: CB EFI update |
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Summer is here in Australia and its time to rid off the spider webs of my buggy. look at the videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dQLaXLsIEk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYLKI5qACXQ&feature=relmfu
the buggy is running well with the exception of:
still running slightly rich.
bucks and jerks at cruising speed at around 2k rpm. once past that its fine.
i might try 28 injectors instead of the 52s.
the bucking and jerking. I HAVE NO IDEA.
the problem i had with it dying as was mentioned in previous posts, turned out to be a faulty coil that came with the kit from CB performance (over heats) at 140 temp the coil dyes.
it is scary to drive with so much power and i Havant even gone anywhere 10 pound boost. i hate to think what would happen at 15lb boost. probably blow the engine..ha ha |
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miniman82 Samba Swamp Donkey

Joined: March 22, 2005 Posts: 9515 Location: Southern Maryland
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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NO.
Further, DIS from that company is not distributorless at all since it mounts to.... A DISTRIBUTOR! It gets you the marketing gimmick of saying you have DIS (you really don't), and you don't get any of the benefits of a true DIS system with crank reference. Wasted money if I ever saw it. _________________ Build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212747
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emsharp0355 Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2009 Posts: 1 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Can you use a Compu-Fire DIS ignition system with the quick tune efi? |
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scs2003 Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2011 Posts: 70 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Made a mistake the Air/fuel is at 14.7. i would like it to be around 13 or less.
perhaps the 02 sensor is faulty (i have changed it once before it didn't work) or perhaps the 02 map sensor is faulty. ? how else can i bring that 14.7 down.
I started the car again and tried it with open and closed loop and still the same, running rich and when it reaches 140 it dyes. |
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mcmscott Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2010 Posts: 4927 Location: sanger ca
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:46 am Post subject: |
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At 140 the ecu is probably going into closed loop and learning is also starting, check your desired a/f ranges as the ecu is probably trying to tune to these, or turn auto tune off untill you can set up a map that runs well |
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scs2003 Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2011 Posts: 70 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:08 am Post subject: |
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I might add also changed oxygen map sensor and at the moment running the following
Running only 5lb boost at the moment
New plugs
Timing is set
Electronic egnition
Air/fuel set 13
I am open to any suggestions |
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scs2003 Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2011 Posts: 70 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:37 am Post subject: CB Performance EFI |
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Since my last post. I have installed the t4 turbo as pat said that the system won't work on dual canons which I had on the car and now changed to a one muffler system. The car still running rich even though with complete new exhaust system. Since ten I attempted to drive the car and the car bucks and hesitate and stall when I take my foot of the accelerator.very scarey and not safe thing to do. I then changed the oxygen sensor and the TPS the car idles nicely even though it's still running rich and why it was stalling I worked out and haven't solved as yet is that when the car reaches head temp of 140 it stalls. I am able to start the car with no problem but it stalls straight away. If I let the car cool for a while it starts again untill it reaches that magic figure of 140.
I tried contacting pat by email and phone and lcan't seem to get him.
I leave to you guys to help me out as to what to do. As it is the car is not safe to drive as you have to keep the rev high even after you stop other wise it will stall.
I thought of putting on a dyno but not untill I get these two issues sorted
. Running rich
. Stalling when head temp reaches 140 according to reading on dashboard. |
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fatsubsonic Samba Member
Joined: April 09, 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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orb666 wrote: |
Does anyone know if they plan to make the software iPad compatable?
I'd love to be able to mount the iPad on the dash to monitor head temps, a/f ratio etc - much easier than having a laptop rolling around on the seat.
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I have been thinking the same thing!  _________________ '66 Beetle
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miniman82 Samba Swamp Donkey

Joined: March 22, 2005 Posts: 9515 Location: Southern Maryland
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:20 am Post subject: |
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Theory is theory, put smaller injectors in it I promise it runs better. _________________ Build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212747
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Stripped66 Samba Member

Joined: May 31, 2005 Posts: 3509 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Again, it depends on the injectors. I've been running a set of high-impedance Siemens Deka injectors that are controllable at least down to 1.2ms (as far as I have tuned with them at low-load cruise); they idle at 1.46ms and even a +/-0.05ms change in PW noticeably affects the idle quality and AFR.
A 52 lb/hr injector will likely need a PW in the range of 1.4 to 1.6ms for idle on a 2276. That can be done with several of the newer low-impedance or high-impedance injectors that are available today. The minimum opening time for an injector is easy to test, and depends on the injector (the design, brand, model...not just the "type" of injector). _________________
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Why not just make a custom set of wires with a Y splice in them. Then you could just run one distributor. |
I don't think electrickery works that way |
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miniman82 Samba Swamp Donkey

Joined: March 22, 2005 Posts: 9515 Location: Southern Maryland
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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That's for P&H injectors, saturated ones are worse. _________________ Build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212747
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Stripped66 Samba Member

Joined: May 31, 2005 Posts: 3509 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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miniman82 wrote: |
Once you get down into the 1.x PW numbers, you're basically idling on injector open time only, you can't cut flow any less than that. |
It depends on the injectors. _________________
66brm wrote: |
Bodacious wrote: |
Why not just make a custom set of wires with a Y splice in them. Then you could just run one distributor. |
I don't think electrickery works that way |
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miniman82 Samba Swamp Donkey

Joined: March 22, 2005 Posts: 9515 Location: Southern Maryland
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Here's what it boils down to: if he's already at 1.something on the injector PW and still pig rich, there's no other alternative to get less fuel but to reduce fuel pressure or get smaller injectors. Smaller injectors would be the best thing to do, the computer will have more control over them because they will be better matched to the engine displacement. Once you get down into the 1.x PW numbers, you're basically idling on injector open time only, you can't cut flow any less than that. _________________ Build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212747
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Tbirdusa Samba Member
Joined: November 29, 2006 Posts: 1460 Location: Kansas City, MO
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:09 am Post subject: |
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scs2003 wrote: |
if it helps here are the specs
Quicktune efi kit with 52lb injectors, 2 bar map sensor, , 52lb T04 profile, SP ignition input |
My NA system on a 2332, per Pat D., came with 25 lb injectors and a 1 bar map. That's reasoning for my assumption that it must be a turbo engine. _________________ Royals 2015 World Champions
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bugninva Samba Member

Joined: December 14, 2004 Posts: 8858 Location: sound it out.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Why is everyone making the assumption he has a turbo motor?  |
great question!!... simple answer.... for me, the title of this thread puts my mind in the turbo frame..... but you are correct, he did not say it was turbo....  _________________
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miniman82 Samba Swamp Donkey

Joined: March 22, 2005 Posts: 9515 Location: Southern Maryland
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Why is everyone making the assumption he has a turbo motor?  _________________ Build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212747
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bugninva Samba Member

Joined: December 14, 2004 Posts: 8858 Location: sound it out.
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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miniman82 wrote: |
52lb are huge injectors, get something smaller. |
I believe CB supplied 63lb injectors for my turbo/EFI.... it's what Pat decided was necessary... _________________
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With a show of hands, who has built over 1000 engines in the last 25 years? Anyone? |
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Eaallred Samba Member

Joined: May 18, 2003 Posts: 5756 Location: West Valley City, Utah
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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I am running 51 lb injectors and idle just fine. I think he should be fine with 52's. If he's a turbo motor going for over 200 hp, he'll need them. _________________ Eric Allred
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miniman82 Samba Swamp Donkey

Joined: March 22, 2005 Posts: 9515 Location: Southern Maryland
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:59 am Post subject: |
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52lb are huge injectors, get something smaller. _________________ Build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212747
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