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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have pictures of the fan shroud after it was cut, but it looks pretty identical to what was previously posted.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just wondering
on a carb car the gen is just for spark and stuff like lights at night or windshield wipers when it rains

on a F.I. car if its running its using more power than just coil and spark

an alternator and a cap for the amp and ill be Golden!
well ... if i just get off my ass and put them in..... Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bobnotch wrote:
sharkskinman wrote:
yup
i have the generator out of my 67 that im going to just swap the pully
and turn it around

i have never had a problem putting a single wire lat in a bug
the 66 baja had it
and when i put the T1 in the 67 fasty
Same thing
just taped the wires together

Just have to get to someone that can shave it like its needed


Again... anyone done this conversion with a F.I. engine???


I thought dirt sandwich (from Idaho) did it a year or 2 ago on his Square.


yep I did on my FI 71. worked fine. Maybe I'm naive but why the FI/carb questions?

I swapped it out for a geo metro alt because I like the fit more.

My next T3 I'm going to use a T1/T2 alt flipped 180 degrees.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sharkskinman wrote:
yup
i have the generator out of my 67 that im going to just swap the pully
and turn it around

i have never had a problem putting a single wire lat in a bug
the 66 baja had it
and when i put the T1 in the 67 fasty
Same thing
just taped the wires together

Just have to get to someone that can shave it like its needed


Again... anyone done this conversion with a F.I. engine???


I thought dirt sandwich (from Idaho) did it a year or 2 ago on his Square.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yup
i have the generator out of my 67 that im going to just swap the pully
and turn it around

i have never had a problem putting a single wire lat in a bug
the 66 baja had it
and when i put the T1 in the 67 fasty
Same thing
just taped the wires together

Just have to get to someone that can shave it like its needed


Again... anyone done this conversion with a F.I. engine???
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks, I have never really seen the workings of an alternator other than having a shop swap pulleys when buying a new one and just bolt on replacement after returning home.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I like the flipped alt. no cutting or fan issues but how do you flip the pulley?


You pop it off, and put it on the other end. Wink Actually, you'll want to use the T-3 pulley on it, so it'll fit inside the belt housing.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

supersuk wrote:
Mike,

Its pretty easy to do. I was able to finish the mod in about 3 hours. Since I used the 75amp unit, it was a lot bigger which required more cutting on both halves of the fan shroud.

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All I used was a jig saw with a fine metal cutting blade, drill, rivets and rivet gun, and some sheet metal.


The OP used a 75 amp alt too, this IS why he had to cut the fan housing. With the 55 amp unit, it fits in the "flipped" position without any cutting. Note; it does need a little grinding to clear the 3-4 side sheet metal.

The only issue with this style of conversion, is no cooling air for the alt, and that shround will forever be a 75 amp t-1 alternator shroud (can't go back to a generator). I don't know IF the 75 amp unit is the same size as the "super 100 amp" unit though. I think they're even larger (the 100 amp unit).
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the flipped alt. no cutting or fan issues but how do you flip the pulley?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i have a single wire 55a T1 im so wanting to put it in
i would love to do it the front way it Does look OG
but it simpler to put it in backwards
and i dont have an avenue to cut my fan shroud
I NEED my car as its my Daily Driver

just have to get up the nerve to put it in Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The build thread is here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=332198[/quote]

Would LOVE a bracket like that.

Did you make it yourself? How is it holding up?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i need to do this swap
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you have any BARE pictures of AFTER the cut and before the sheetmetal additive?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike,

Its pretty easy to do. I was able to finish the mod in about 3 hours. Since I used the 75amp unit, it was a lot bigger which required more cutting on both halves of the fan shroud.

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All I used was a jig saw with a fine metal cutting blade, drill, rivets and rivet gun, and some sheet metal.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itawayoflife wrote:
I just recently did edangerspecies' version and has been working well for the last few weeks.

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I'll prolly have to pay someone to do this for me? It somehow looks OG correct. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought I would give you guys a update on how my conversion has been working...I drive it all the time and have never had an issue with it...I love being able to drive at night with the headlights bright, in the rain with the wippers going, and be listening to my stereo all at the same time... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just recently did edangerspecies' version and has been working well for the last few weeks.

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very clean and nicely done.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks! And this will work for the type 3 and bolt-on without major mods?
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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