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type4split
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 Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 9:53 am Post subject: Re: Direction for a '52 |
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Fuel line replacement time.
I can’t seem to find any details on pre ‘52 replacements. All threads go to 60s and maybe an oval. Anyone have details specific to splits? Right now I’m struggling with the back attachment point. Obviously it’s loose in frame horn hole. But where does it attach ?
UPDATE:
Old line is loose at the front tab. Loose below the shift tube. But seems to be rigid forward of the trans access hole. Is there another tab?
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:08 am Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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Nope. I considered it, but it was at the bottom of the to-do list, and never gave me a problem so I never touched it. When the starter finally did give up the smoke many years later, I just replaced it and that may be the one thats still with that motor.. now in my 65 bus. |
With the 6 volt solenoid the starter gear pounds on the flywheel teeth a lot harder making for more damage of the softer flywheel material.
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I will attest to this. I recently replaced all the cables and grounds on a 55 that sat for 30+ years, and it was still slow to crank. After wire brushing the transmission where the starter mounts the crank speed was noticeably higher, and more consistent. |
Good!! Also do same for the surfaces between the starter motor and the starter solenoid for properly working ground there.
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esde
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| Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:03 am Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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| Running 12v to the stock 6v starter (works fine). |
For now.
I chewed up ring gears on two different flywheels doing this. (If it were a good idea, the factory would have done it.) |
Did you change the solenoid to 12 volt with the 6 volt starter?? |
Nope. I considered it, but it was at the bottom of the to-do list, and never gave me a problem so I never touched it. When the starter finally did give up the smoke many years later, I just replaced it and that may be the one thats still with that motor.. now in my 65 bus.
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Thanks for feedback.
I’ll check bushing.
Esde, I was thinking of 12v 90mm generator. Anyone know if I can run an early thin lip pulley? I have a OG Pepco I’m putting on and need thin pulley to clear. |
I do have a thin lip pulley on my 12v 90mm generator. Mine is an industrial unit, which I was told is slightly different from the Porsche generators, though I'm unsure what the differences are.
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| Looking for some advice and others experience regarding 6v vs 12v. I’ve installed a brand new (VWLOOMS) wiring harness. New battery cables. Starter is original bosch, but rebuilt Engine is a ‘58. With a 6v battery it hardly cranks. |
Did you polish up the transaxle and starter surfaces where they mount together. That is important for a good ground and do use dielectric grease to keep away the corrosion. |
I will attest to this. I recently replaced all the cables and grounds on a 55 that sat for 30+ years, and it was still slow to crank. After wire brushing the transmission where the starter mounts the crank speed was noticeably higher, and more consistent.
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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| Looking for some advice and others experience regarding 6v vs 12v. I’ve installed a brand new (VWLOOMS) wiring harness. New battery cables. Starter is original bosch, but rebuilt Engine is a ‘58. With a 6v battery it hardly cranks. |
Did you polish up the transaxle and starter surfaces where they mount together. That is important for a good ground and do use dielectric grease to keep away the corrosion.
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type4split
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| Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: Direction for a '52 |
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Thanks for feedback.
I’ll check bushing.
Esde, I was thinking of 12v 90mm generator. Anyone know if I can run an early thin lip pulley? I have a OG Pepco I’m putting on and need thin pulley to clear.
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Eric&Barb
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| Running 12v to the stock 6v starter (works fine). |
For now.
I chewed up ring gears on two different flywheels doing this. (If it were a good idea, the factory would have done it.) |
Did you change the solenoid to 12 volt with the 6 volt starter??
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esde
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| Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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| Running 12v to the stock 6v starter (works fine). |
For now.
I chewed up ring gears on two different flywheels doing this. (If it were a good idea, the factory would have done it.) |
I believe you, but you're the first person I've heard of thats had a problem. Mine has been spinning since the 80's. Might have been through a starter or two since then but the flywheel is fine
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Blue Baron
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| Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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| esde wrote: |
| Running 12v to the stock 6v starter (works fine). |
For now.
I chewed up ring gears on two different flywheels doing this. (If it were a good idea, the factory would have done it.)
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esde
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| Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 5:54 am Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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FWIW, I have been back and forth about the voltage choice for my 52 zwitter.
In the end, I have decided to do the following, which can easily be changed back to 6v if desired.
12 volt system, on a new harness. Running 12v to the stock 6v starter (works fine), 12v coil, bulbs, and 12v 90mm generator. I have Chip's LED kits for the heart taillights and will hide the flasher. I am running a voltage drop to the semaphores, and spent some money getting the correct rebuilt parts from Matt in Canada. Sometimes he can kit bash early parts onto later parts so they look correct but cost a little less. I think I have early arms and lenses, with later solenoids, or something like that. I've tried fussing with a friends car when he had trouble with the aftermarket semaphores, and the quality is not there for what they cost.
I'm hoping for easy to start and drive, and mostly stock appearance. I love my 6v cars but sometimes they are just a pain... the new to me 55 had me pulling my hair out every week.
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The starter bendix support bushing in the transmission may need to be replaced
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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Those seamed axle boots need to be turned, so that the seams are at or barley above the 9 or 3 O'clock position. Seam up at 12 O'clock will cause the boots to get torn up all too soon due to the axles flexing up and down.
Also tight the small clamp last on the boots, but just before you tighten those down push the small end of the boots toward the transaxle to keep the boots from over stretching and tearing when you jack the VW up to work on.
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type4split
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Looking for some advice and others experience regarding 6v vs 12v. I’ve installed a brand new (VWLOOMS) wiring harness. New battery cables. Starter is original bosch, but rebuilt Engine is a ‘58. With a 6v battery it hardly cranks.
Next thing is I need to purchase are semaphores. They are a decent size $$ investment. So I want to invest once,
So I’m trying to decide if I go 6v or 12v. The car is not restored, or will it be until I retire probably, so originality is not an issue. I just want to enjoy it and not have any issues if I want to drive it to a show 1-2 hrs away.
I guess my question is if I change to 12v what all do I need to change ? Regulator, bulbs are the obvious things. What else ? Dash pod is from John Henry.
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type4split
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| Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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Just messing around with hood from my convertible ??
Someone cut the hood hinge attachment block of. I need to drill out spot welds and weld in new mounts.
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type4split
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| Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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Wiring tonight. Ugh…..
Could someone please give me details on the routing of the horn wiring and the electrical for brake master cylinder ?
Looking at pictures and other posts; I’m thinking they might go through tire well ?
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my3bugs
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| Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:24 am Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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| im my 51 the heater cable wouldnt go thru the tube on one side , i hand filed the end to make it more rounded , sorta took the corner off the end piece and it made it thru . |
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robbiecanter
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| Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 10:19 pm Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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I had to repair the same thing on mine, I'm Sure it's under my name somewhere on here. But right after I did, I found someone who was making the metal mount piece. I will see if I can dig that up.
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type4split
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| Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:41 am Post subject: Re: direction for a '52 |
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Finster, the donut would, however the body is on and I can’t get to it.
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