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tencentlife
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well the biggest 'problem' is that i can accelerate now, so I do. And i drive faster than i did before the engine upgrade up hills..and i guess that isn't very good for mileage
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Yup, that's the problem I warn about in my ad. But your mileage sounds pretty good on the whole nonetheless.
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if we "needed" a new motor for lucy, how many $'s
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Everything you could want to know is at my signature link.
If you want to do business please contact me via the ad, not by PM. Thanks.
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vwbeta
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| It would be great if you could update with some mileage reports of real world driving. Thanks |
well the biggest 'problem' is that i can accelerate now, so I do. And i drive faster than i did before the engine upgrade up hills..and i guess that isn't very good for mileage 
that being say - i can share some results that i think are 'valid'.
87 Westfalia, Auto trans, Vanistan 2.2, exhaust, throttle body etc.
Loaded for camping, 3 people = 470 lbs, full fridge, full cooler, camping supplies etc,4 bundles of firewood additional 500 lbs? freeway driving with some hills 17 MPG
Return freeway driving FROM camping, same people, empty cooler, no firewood, down from mountain and flats [gassed up before climbing up pass back home] - 21 MPG
City Driving - stop and go [Los Angeles rush hour traffic], +neighborhood driving, fast accelerating, almost zero freeway/highway driving - 13.5 MPG
I think if i wasn't a leadfoot this past tank that i would be more like 15MPG.
BEFORE THE ENGINE UPGRADE - 13.2-15.9 was my range. i never saw 17 MPG on the freeway, let alone 21! as noted some of that was downhill wihtout corresponding real uphill, but still..
I know my mileage actually improved slightly over my previous engine, but i believe the previous engine/exhaust was running below spec. I was convinced i was slower in my 87 than my earlier watercooled 81, for example. of course, YMMV. [couldnt resist] 
I'll update more in the coming months as my driving settles down and i stop trying to race cayennes..
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rubbachicken
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shiny 
if we "needed" a new motor for lucy, how many $'s
she's not so happy when we point her up hill 
she likes the down hill bits 
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joseph928
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:06 pm Post subject: engine |
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 great engine ,love the big motor,just put in a go westy 2.3 but if I would of known of tencentlife I would of used him. After reading his posts ,seems like a outstanding person. 
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tencentlife
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Glad to hear you guys are enjoying your new setups.
vwbeta, it's OK to raise the idle by opening the air bypass screw a bit, its the Allen screw on top of the TB just aft of the throttle shaft. 5mm allen hex wrench will fit, try a small turn counterclockwise, maybe 1/6 turn at a time, and drive it some to see if you like the idle better. But don't unscrew it so far that the o-ring around the screw head is coming out of the TB.
Onward!
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Sounds great!
enjoy the well built, and more powerful, motor.
those climbs are tough man
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Ddubsghia
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Just broke 300 miles, took long enough! Wow! Just step on it! Freeks people out to see your van pull of the line quicker than them. I can't say enough, I-70 climb mid 60's up west, High 50's low 60's east up the eisenhower climb. Hit 85 on the flat outside Denver! Crazy fast in my baby but fun as shit! Exhaust sounds...... so nice! Its cold out, don't wait til spring, if you need or want a new engine, my feeling is you can't go wrong with a Tencent! Thanks again, Chris!!!
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GBA 88West LA
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looking good, congratulations
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After driving Chris's personal jalopie test dummy at Syncro Solstice, all I can say is <drool>.
I'm going this route as well when the 2.1 craps. Of course, I'll order it before it blows, right.
A thing of beauty.
Nice thread!
Bring it down to PDX for the Dec 11 Christmas meet
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vwbeta
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Update!
I've been driving the car for a while now - things seem to be going well. I haven't had any problems, performance is good..huge improvement still.
..although parallel parking is a little harder - between the new TB and the engine/exhaust combo, the car accelerates with just a light type on the pedal! i'm not complaining
only minor/negative is the whole package sounds great - but is definitely louder in the vehicle than the stock exhaust at idle and i've got a little vibration i have to look at. new engine mounts were installed when the engine was done, so it ain't that.. it feels like idle is a few rpm lower than it 'wants' to be - i'll talk to chris about that and discuss with my mechanic.
when driving it sounds great
One more comment: previous engine i had the buzzer / oil light flicker when i pushed the engine on a hot day. this car - not at all. never seen it once, in all the same places that i saw it before. i *did* get the oil-cooler from chris as well, so that is likely partly to blame!
mucho engine porn below:
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| Congrats man stoked for you I'll be doing a bostig conv soon |
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DAIZEE
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Although I don't have the 10 cent engine, I know the feeling of satisfaction and the highness of having a good engine under/behind you. Congrats.
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Ddubsghia
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I just rolled the speedo over 54 miles. I agree, WOW! Living in colorado at this altitude already a challange for my old 1.9, but this new tencentlife no challange. I have yet to put enough miles on it to do the eisenhower climb, (that will come in about a month) but i have cruised all around denver and the great thing is this van now pulls in 3rd! I roll in the left lane. No more dirty looks! I loved working with Chris, stand up dude. I'm full of stupid questioins and Chris answered with out any hesitation and made me feel like he really gave a shit. This guy is a true artist. I opted for the matching S/S exhaust as well, BadASS! I highly recommend if you want to upgrade your engine, and you want to keep it German! You can't go wrong with a Vanistan! Thanks for the early X-mas present!
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: I have now officially put 50 miles on my tencent engine |
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..and all I can say is 'Wow - i have a completely different car  '
I promise I will post a full review, with photos and details and such this weekend, but I could not resist some anecdotal experiences:
1. 405 N before 101 has an incline that my previous 2.1 could barely do 50, and when fully loaded was sluggish and more like 45 with throttle wide-open.
With tencent engine, exhaust and throttle body? I was accelerating UP the incline, in the passing lane and was doing 65 without difficulty. whoa!
2. I can easily do 70+ on the freeway. I haven't, but based on how much more room i have on the throttle -it sure feels like it. i have an automatic, and i'm afraid to put the throttle down to the floor. Okay, not 'afraid' as cautious at this time, but I hope you get the drift - for the first time, i feel like i have some emergency passing power..
3. the throttle response and low-end performance is amazing. i can actually tap the throttle and get an almost off-the-line jerk in performance. It isn't my porsche, but i could NEVER spill someone's coffee in the old 2.1.!
4. i'm actually concerned i could get myself a ticket in the westy. I never had that thought cross my mind before. i could have the throttle wide open and never be speeding on the freeway, ergo no tickets. Perhaps chris should offer an optional radar detector with his engine?
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congrats chris
I just picked up my 1.8T from stephan,today, and I feel your enthusiasm |
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Just BE SURE in those high load situations to let off the pedal every couple/few seconds to give the rings time to cool and allow the engine vacuum to suck the swarf off the cylinder walls and indeed pushing it is what seats the rings most effectively.
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| Awesome! Sounds like your old engine was pretty beat. This one should keep you smiling a very long time. |
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Rocky Mountain Westy
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: I have now officially put 50 miles on my tencent engine |
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| Ever hear of 'engine break-in'?? Only 50 mi and driving like that would be grounds to cancel 'any' warranty. |
BOO, Mory, BOO.
Sounds like a perfect way to break it in. Get it out on the highway at different speeds. Make it work, exercise it.
Pussyfooting around the block is not the correct way to break in the engine.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: I have now officially put 50 miles on my tencent engine |
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..and all I can say is 'Wow - i have a completely different car '
I promise I will post a full review, with photos and details and such this weekend, but I could not resist some anecdotal experiences:
1. 405 N before 101 has an incline that my previous 2.1 could barely do 50, and when fully loaded was sluggish and more like 45 with throttle wide-open.
With tencent engine, exhaust and throttle body? I was accelerating UP the incline, in the passing lane and was doing 65 without difficulty. whoa!
2. I can easily do 70+ on the freeway. I haven't, but based on how much more room i have on the throttle -it sure feels like it. i have an automatic, and i'm afraid to put the throttle down to the floor. Okay, not 'afraid' as cautious at this time, but I hope you get the drift - for the first time, i feel like i have some emergency passing power..
3. the throttle response and low-end performance is amazing. i can actually tap the throttle and get an almost off-the-line jerk in performance. It isn't my porsche, but i could NEVER spill someone's coffee in the old 2.1.!
4. i'm actually concerned i could get myself a ticket in the westy. I never had that thought cross my mind before. i could have the throttle wide open and never be speeding on the freeway, ergo no tickets. Perhaps chris should offer an optional radar detector with his engine?
5. where are the 'tencent 2.2' decals?
cheers,
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DAIZEE
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GOOD ON YOU! I don't have a tencent motor but I know the feeling about having power and still more throttle. Haven't done any great inclines YET but I cruise at 100 kph (it revs too high at 105+) over hill and dale and I still have power to pull out and pass. I can now drive in the centre lane of a 3 lane regularly. For me it's been 18 frustrating mths BUT isn't it a wonderful feeling to actually feel that power and the extra power behind it  I can feel happiness for you.
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