Throw Out Bearing Clip Safety Wire

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[Dauz]

I’ve broken a throw out bearing shaft with a 2300lb pressure plate. I’m sure the arm was worn. Never had a clip fall out under normal circumstance.

[Casting Timmy]

I don't like the Empi style throw out bearings on the early (or late), but especially the early as they have shallow pockets for the clips. If you get a Sachs throw out bearing it has the plastic insert that the clip sits in, but the clips sit in there all the way.

Empi or anyone selling the metal lugs on the side I'd say away from as it doesn't leave any install room for that leg of the clip.

[FreeBug]

I think it's a bit of a placebo, but if that's what he needs to be able to sleep at night , so be it.

I'm pretty sure we all have one bit of our car that was modified strictly out of fear...or a bad previous experience. Different folks, different phobias...

And I have seen one fail, it's usually because the arm is very worn where the bearing rests, esp. if it's just one side... but you would have spotted that. I've also seen well-maintained stuff that was still running on it's original graphite T.O. bearing. So grease that surface!!! (copper is good for heat).

[nsracing]

Geezus Christians! Why do you need all the wires in there?

You people are overthingking this. I have never had one fall out of the groove.

[rugblaster]

The reason the early style clips started falling out is because the saddles the TO bearing rides in are worn out from 70 years of use. Add to that some shitty built Chinese junk and spring steel clips that aren't that springy and it is what it is. I don't know if I have ever seen a loopy one fail if properly installed.

The later model TO bearings and diaphragm clutch plates were a game changer.
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[sufidancer]

I have a 67 trans with the early "U" shaped clips , are the clips that have a closed loop better or safer? Do they even work on early split trans or should I stay with factory U shaped clips?
I have the trans out and have and have a chance to put new clips in since these are probably original.
Thoughts?

[mcmscott]

As Volkswagen spent more time and effort coming up with the irs trans in 68-69( sooner than the late tob) you are also saying that all swing cars are junk and you would never work on one? VW used the early design tob for more than 30 years with no real problems, that is a fact, didn't mean to create an arguement just to state facts, not oppinions

[Bruce]

[Dale M.]

[RailBoy]

Dale M., just to cover it in a Bug you are suppost to have 1/2" to 1" of Pedal movement with your clutch pedal before ingagement? Been a while since I have seen the book on this, but this approach impliments what you are getting at.... Just making sure my measurement is not off.... RB

[clonebug]

[Dale M.]

IF throw out bearings loose clips and falls off throwout arms and lands on input shaft, your clutch free play is adjusted incorrectly.... IF adjusted correctly there is not enough clearance (room) for it to fall off throwout forks...

Dale
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[mcmscott]

I have used hundreds if not thousands of early tob's and never had a single failure due to clips falling off. I'm not saying the later bearing is not supperior, just there is nothing wrong with an early if set up correct

[lostinbaja]

I have been driving and racing VW's since 1972 and I have never had a TO bearing clip fall off. I never used safety wire on them.
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[Bruce]

[bartman]

I've had this happen. My bearing came off of one of the forks which rendered the clutch ineffective (and ruined the bearing). The pedal feel was such that I thought I'd broken the cable.

The clip got wedged behind the flat clutch springs, requiring me to construct a lever apparatus to compress the clutch while I fished out the clip with a magnet-on-a-stick.
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[clonebug]

Where would the bearing go if the clips DID fall out????

Unneeded as far as I can see.

Clonebug

[Dale M.]

It will work... Time to move on ...

Dale
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[Bruce]

I would have drilled the holes lower on the arms. You want to hold the clips in, not up.
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