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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Corwyn"]T.K. is back! I hope all is well. you were very missed out here I "vanland"!


Hey Terry Kay!
Good to see you back !!!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

retroman wrote:
wear less clothing!


This solution is really only visually acceptable to a relatively small part of our population base!

If you are one who honestly can't pull this off........please, install AC! Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

retroman wrote:
wear less clothing!


Anything less than a loin cloth and its considered indecent exposure... And more seriously... Mostly I wear wicking T and shorts with a liner for hiking and biking in summer.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has any one thought of, this kind of roof ac unit . The most advantage in this set up, unit will have every part needed for ac to work expect ac compressor. I like to know any negative side . One I can think of is, it is easily noticeable from outside.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A member here named southolive, installed a portable ac unit in the rear closet permanently for cooling when camping and 110 power is available. It was actually a very clean install. I copied some other members ideas for an AC for camping when there is power.

My version. Sets up in a minute.

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Having about 40 hours in the bib alone, TK's complete setup is a good deal in the classifieds if he is still making them.

For AC when moving, I installed a Vintage Air dash unit. It keeps the front passengers cool. Search Google for Blake Heinlein Vanagon AC. He completely documented the vintage air install. If you search here for Vintage Air Gen IV someone installed the later vintage air unit.

All of these options are a ton of work and not for the meek.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips. Did I mention I m typing on my stupif phone?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahwahnee wrote:
As far as heat & humidity when camping: like tornadoes, floods and death --I plan to be somewhere else when it happens.


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climber2377 wrote:
My plan was to post and get a link to the forum topics of the past, but if you want to be that guy, you are welcome. Might be new to this forum, but I m not new to the internet. Maybe volkswagon people are not as amiable as subaru folk?


A) Volkswagen

B) We're plenty amiable; however, it helps tremendously to spell out, in detail, the information you're seeking in your first post. For example:

Hi! I'm in the market for a Westy and am currently looking at a 1981 air-cooled. It's great body-wise and mechanical-wise, but it lacks A/C and I must have A/C. Is there any way to retrofit A/C? Is it worth it to retrofit A/C, or should I wait for a van that already has A/C? What does everyone use for A/C while parked? If you could point me to existing topics that'd be great. Thanks!

C) From the camping sticky:
Portable A/C: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=417287
12v portable A/C: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=336890
Too hot in the van: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=519665

From the FAQ sticky:
Universal front A/C units: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=234572

From a search:
Retrofitting A/C: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=480685

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

climber2377 wrote:
Thanks Dave, I m currently working from my "stupid" phone so its not the best time for in depth research, figured a thread would help steer me in the right direction. I ve seen several vans with little fans in them as well. I've not purchased my westy yet but have allotted some funds for the occasion that I happen to find it. There is an 81 I m looking at but it does not have AC... I think it is in great shape otherwise and has relatively low miles...About 100k. There is very little rust and although I would eventually want to put a subaru engine in and would prefer to start with a watercooled model for that conversion, I can't help but think the condition of this body with low miles might be a good place to start.


Many have converted air cooled to water cooled, just cut out for the lower grill and slip in a radiator! Sounds easy doesn't it? Smile

Fewer have cobbled a radiator into the rear...... Seems too difficult and cramped for me.

Rust, learn the rust spots and check out your potential purchase for rust. It can be fixed but is expensive and at times involved. Best to find a rust free body and build upon that.

Good Luck!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Dave, I m currently working from my "stupid" phone so its not the best time for in depth research, figured a thread would help steer me in the right direction. I ve seen several vans with little fans in them as well. I've not purchased my westy yet but have allotted some funds for the occasion that I happen to find it. There is an 81 I m looking at but it does not have AC... I think it is in great shape otherwise and has relatively low miles...About 100k. There is very little rust and although I would eventually want to put a subaru engine in and would prefer to start with a watercooled model for that conversion, I can't help but think the condition of this body with low miles might be a good place to start.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Behr had an in dash "factory" unit. They also had a supplemental unit located under the back seat.

Some have removed the entire in dash VW air handler system and installed aftermarket HVAC systems in their place. These are mostly designed for adding Modern AC into vintage cars.

Some have installed entire HVAC units out of other brands of cars.

We all agree that the VW rear mount factory AC unit is marginal at best.

When parked, the most popular system is a very small home window unit mounted in a front cab window. They make special AC hangers even!

Some have installed built in small units as well. Also designed for small room/ home use.

Type in "VW Vanagon Air Conditioning" into google search and click on images....... Many many options will appear!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Factory Westy A/C does not work that well even when it is in top shape. The best one I have seen takes some work to do and involves putting an in dash system in. I have seen one van with this and trust the owner when he says it works great. I do not know whom first did this but the person I know got the parts list from someone whom had posted it online at one time and then he gathered the parts installed them. It would not be a project for the faint of heart I suspect but it beats the factory system and if you have none at all may be the better road to pursue than finding a factory system ti install and having a weak system.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My plan was to post and get a link to the forum topics of the past, but if you want to be that guy, you are welcome. Might be new to this forum, but I m not new to the internet. Maybe volkswagon people are not as amiable as subaru folk?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhaavers wrote:
...This question comes up every year...is it spring already...???


Currently 88° here at 4:23 in the afternoon so yeah, I've verified the A/C is good to go.

As far as heat & humidity when camping: like tornadoes, floods and death --I plan to be somewhere else when it happens.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What, nobody gonna spank the new-bee for not using the "Search"??
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure SOMEONE will come up with it this year... Wink Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhaavers wrote:
Yes, but they're not little or small.

Seems like you'll need about 3kw to keep a small window AC unit running;
takes even more to power the surge when it kicks on.

This question comes up every year...is it spring already...???

Wink


What? Were you dozing all winter and didn't invent the zero draw AC unit? I'm SO disappointed in you!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but they're not little or small.

Seems like you'll need about 3kw to keep a small window AC unit running;
takes even more to power the surge when it kicks on.

This question comes up every year...is it spring already...???

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are there any small portable generators like the little red Honda that would be able to run an AC unit?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That ^ was for shore power when parked.
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