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khalimadeath Samba Member

Joined: June 24, 2014 Posts: 767 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Trouble finding specifics on Carb..( I searched) |
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SO! I pulled the carb, cleaned it drained the 6 M/O gas and reassembled. Re static timed. I also found a port on the intake manifold that was open, I went ahead and plugged it. Checked all the plug wires for correctness and put in fresh gas. Ran like a champ. Drove it around the block no problems. Its one way to kick my ass in gear to get it ready for camping! |
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khalimadeath Samba Member

Joined: June 24, 2014 Posts: 767 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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VolkzBitz wrote: |
If its not your daily driver, send the carb to me and Ill check it out for you without doing a full restore like I normally do. This carb shouldn't be causing so many problems for you, they are generally a good reliable carb, but if your friend took it apart and put something back wrong, then it could be a simple job. I can always test it on my Ghia to make sure its good. |
Its my long term project, ive only been able to drive it once in the 2 years i've owned it :/. So Ill take it off, clean it and check the jets. If I dont have any luck ill take you up on your offer. Thanks!! |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist

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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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busdaddy wrote: |
OP was threatening to buy a "new" carb, that's just $200 down the toilet, at least you know Tim's carb will work properly. |
I totally agree with you Bus Daddy! I'd buy Tim's rebuilt carbs ANYDAY over the new carbs sold today.
OP, what a terrific offer from Tim to check that carb out for you! Take him up on it! I'm sure it's something silly wrong with it. With Tim's experience, he'll have it purring quickly. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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VolkzBitz  Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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If its not your daily driver, send the carb to me and Ill check it out for you without doing a full restore like I normally do. This carb shouldn't be causing so many problems for you, they are generally a good reliable carb, but if your friend took it apart and put something back wrong, then it could be a simple job. I can always test it on my Ghia to make sure its good. _________________ http://volkzbitz.com
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52960 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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wcfvw69 wrote: |
Yes, buying a Volkzbitz carb is a quick solution, but.. what happens the next time you need to play with that carb? If you want to throw $200 at it for ease vs. learning to fix it, that's your choice.  |
Agreed, so much better to understand what's going on in there in the event you have to fix it, but the OP was threatening to buy a "new" carb, that's just $200 down the toilet, at least you know Tim's carb will work properly. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist

Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13685 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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khalimadeath wrote: |
OB Bus wrote: |
My last post and your last post hit at the same time.
Your roommate rebuilt the carb? **sigh**
Stop the bleeding and the frustration. Tim@Volkzbitz |
Yea im a fuel injected guy, this is my first carbureted vehicle. I prefer wires and multimeters. I have rebuilt my lawn mower so I get it.. I just dont want to deal with it. Nor do I want to spend hundreds of $$$ on a different distributor or another carb even though I know it would save me the headache. |
I'll just say that with some research on going thru that carb, you can get go thru it yourself, blow out the jets and passages and insure all the jets are in the right place and everything else is correctly set.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/search.php?search..._chars=200
Here's over 200 threads on that carb w/different themes. If you read thru them, you'll learn how that carb works, what goes where and how to dial it in. The fact that you said the carb worked before says there's nothing wrong with it other than someone needs to go back thru it.
Yes, buying a Volksbiz carb is a quick solution, but.. what happens the next time you need to play with that carb? If you want to throw $200 at it for ease vs. learning to fix it, that's your choice.  _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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khalimadeath Samba Member

Joined: June 24, 2014 Posts: 767 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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OB Bus wrote: |
My last post and your last post hit at the same time.
Your roommate rebuilt the carb? **sigh**
Stop the bleeding and the frustration. Tim@Volkzbitz |
Yea im a fuel injected guy, this is my first carbureted vehicle. I prefer wires and multimeters. I have rebuilt my lawn mower so I get it.. I just dont want to deal with it. Nor do I want to spend hundreds of $$$ on a different distributor or another carb even though I know it would save me the headache. |
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OB Bus Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2003 Posts: 2750 Location: Ocean Beach - San Diego
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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My last post and your last post hit at the same time.
Your roommate rebuilt the carb? **sigh**
Stop the bleeding and the frustration. Tim@Volkzbitz _________________ Larry in OB
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khalimadeath Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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Well there are brand new jets in it, I dont know what jets were where. I suppose a jet could be clogged, it ran fine before I parked it 6 months ago to do the brakes and suspension. How would I go about cleaning it? I dont know much about carbs, my roommate is the one who took it apart.
And no I dont have any other distributers, this is the one it came with.
Also how would I check to see if the jet is spraying? |
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OB Bus Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2003 Posts: 2750 Location: Ocean Beach - San Diego
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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busdaddy wrote: |
khalimadeath wrote: |
Im about ready to just buy a new damn carb lol. |
Brand new likely won't be any improvement over your current one and probably just adds a whole new set of issues. Buy a rebuilt German carb from Volkzbitz, almost the same price but it actually works right out of the box. And team it up with the correct distributor, you'll wonder how you put up with the way it ran before. |
It may not solve all of your problems, but it seems that your issue is the carb. Please consider Busdaddy's advice, get a rebuilt German Solex from Volkzbitz, and, if you still have problems, they won't be carb connected. _________________ Larry in OB
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist

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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Did you make sure you put the pilot jet in the right hole and the auxiliary jet in it's correct hole? Number 0 and 3 on this picture.
You also mentioned you had a vacuum 205T distributor. Have you tried pulling the 009 copy out and putting the 205T in?
That H30/31 carb is generally a very good carb. I've never had any problems with them after I cleaned them out and blew the jets and passages clear.
Watching that video, it's almost like that carb has a clogged spray jet in it. Have you checked to make sure the brass nozzle that points down the throat of the carb is spraying as soon as you flick the throttle? _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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khalimadeath Samba Member

Joined: June 24, 2014 Posts: 767 Location: Reno, NV
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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OK it may or may not be published yet but here is the link/video. It normally dies after i rev it up high but it didnt in the video. I tried to drive it after the video with not much success. It died about 10 times trying to drive it around my cul de sac. it was either full on throttle or dying. Then as soon as i let out the clutch it would die.
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khalimadeath Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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busdaddy wrote: |
khalimadeath wrote: |
Im about ready to just buy a new damn carb lol. |
Brand new likely won't be any improvement over your current one and probably just adds a whole new set of issues. Buy a rebuilt German carb from Volkzbitz, almost the same price but it actually works right out of the box.
And team it up with the correct distributor, you'll wonder how you put up with the way it ran before. |
It barely runs, Im so SICK of messing with this thing. Does anyone want this carb? Im gonna buy a different one. Ive already rebuilt it with good jets and its pretty new. I took a video I will upload shortly. |
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52960 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:37 am Post subject: |
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khalimadeath wrote: |
Im about ready to just buy a new damn carb lol. |
Brand new likely won't be any improvement over your current one and probably just adds a whole new set of issues. Buy a rebuilt German carb from Volkzbitz, almost the same price but it actually works right out of the box.
And team it up with the correct distributor, you'll wonder how you put up with the way it ran before. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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khalimadeath Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:01 am Post subject: |
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wcfvw69 wrote: |
Where is the brass jet on top of the carb, that sprays gas pointed at? It should be pointed down the throat of the carb. Did you check the spray out of that brass jet? Another person with that carb was having similar issues. He found that his brass jet was clogged. He blew it out and re-aimed it down the throat and it cured his issue.
Also, did you check that you're getting a good, solid spray/stream as soon as you pull the accelerator arm on the carb? There is an adjustment for the accelerator pump on that carb. Most of the time, the factory setting is fine but someone could of messed w/it.
Your symptoms do sound like a distributor issue. Is your 009 a Chinese copy or a true, Bosch German made one? Any chance you have a vacuum only distributor? A 205K,M or T works beautifully with that H30/31 carb. It would be a quick double check to see if that cured those symptoms. |
Ill have to re check the 009, it looked pretty old when I was setting the points. Im about ready to just buy a new damn carb lol. |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist

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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Where is the brass jet on top of the carb, that sprays gas pointed at? It should be pointed down the throat of the carb. Did you check the spray out of that brass jet? Another person with that carb was having similar issues. He found that his brass jet was clogged. He blew it out and re-aimed it down the throat and it cured his issue.
Also, did you check that you're getting a good, solid spray/stream as soon as you pull the accelerator arm on the carb? There is an adjustment for the accelerator pump on that carb. Most of the time, the factory setting is fine but someone could of messed w/it.
Your symptoms do sound like a distributor issue. Is your 009 a Chinese copy or a true, Bosch German made one? Any chance you have a vacuum only distributor? A 205K,M or T works beautifully with that H30/31 carb. It would be a quick double check to see if that cured those symptoms. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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khalimadeath Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Tcash wrote: |
khalimadeath wrote: |
009 distributor
Solex H30 31PICT
1600 single port |
First lube your distributor.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7480861#7480861
Did you first do:
Valves
Plugs
Lube dist.
Dwell
Timing
Carb
009's are known for a flat spot.
Increasing the Accelerator pump volume helps.
Good luck
Tcash |
Yes I have done all of the above.. in that order as well. I think the problem is my carb, not sure what aspect of it though. I know its clean and I know the jets are set proper. |
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Tcash Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:55 am Post subject: |
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khalimadeath wrote: |
009 distributor
Solex H30 31PICT
1600 single port |
First lube your distributor.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7480861#7480861
Did you first do:
Valves
Plugs
Lube dist.
Dwell
Timing
Carb
009's are known for a flat spot.
Increasing the Accelerator pump volume helps.
Good luck
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khalimadeath Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:41 am Post subject: |
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Okay update:
So I static timed it according to this guide
http://www.aircooledtech.com/timing/static/
and this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=787INwvir24
My carb has fresh clean jets tuned to what was recommended from a carb builder I was told to talk to on here. Once it was timed it had a different "smother" sound. It wasnt dying at idle but here is the problem, when pressing on the accelerator once I get about an inch down fuel sounds like it cuts and almost dies. Then once I go past that it revs up super high. Then once I let off it goes low then stabilizes. I did get it to die by pressing the pedal in then out quickly a few times. So in short there is a point in the acceleration that it seems to loose fuel and when gas it cut suddenly it tries to die. |
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Lionhart94010 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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FYI, make sure your idle jet is not clogged, many driving issues on Solex carbs are related to clogged/ too small idle jets…
Also sometimes cleaning an old carb(30K +) increases air leakage at the throttle shaft if it is worn (plugged by gunk before cleaning…) check for wobble Back / Forth, Up / Down should be no play… Worn Solex carbs are close to impossible to tune well (unless you have an O2 A/F gauge ;0) _________________ Current VWs 71 T2 Westy SO-72/6(Miami), 71 Crew Cab, 2015 GSW TDI
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