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ausbran
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 Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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| hans j wrote: |
| Yup. Just wait for that p0087 fault! |
I just replaced every single component in my fuel system to fix p0087. Absolute nightmare lol, but finally got it fixed. |
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vanis13
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Location: ABQ NM USA.... Except when not
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 7:30 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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| e.facchinei wrote: |
Lol. Def not a “plant”.
Install was a private mechanic, if he wants me to share his info i will. |
I gotta say, in this murky situation, any claims that can't be independently verified are suspect.
And, and "hey I got this solution (a mechanic that can do this certain thing) but you can't get this same solution" are worthless since it does not provide a solution to those that have struggled with this product.
Unless those two points get straightened out, the post still may be a plant that either tries to make this product process more feasible than it actually is...or the post is irrelevant since the needed solution is not available to anyone but the original poster.
Wouldn't one think if the mechanic can make work what others want but can't make work that the mechanic could have an extremely good business that would eclipse any other ventures he might have in the mechanic realm?
Post is still suspect to me especially considering the history around experiences with Boxeer.
..... Also curious @e.facchinei - what is your history with Vanagons and what was your journey to deciding on boxeer and why have we not heard from you before your post that resurrected this topic?
In addition to pictures, t would be helpful to get a real accounting of total costs of your successful install in both money and time.
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e.facchinei
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:58 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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Lol. Def not a “plant”.
Install was a private mechanic, if he wants me to share his info i will. He has 15+ years experience working on vanagons and has done dozens of conversions, from kits to piecing together his own ABA. His day job also has him wrenching on modern VW so this motor was in his wheelhouse. He was very impressed with the kit.
While I have done a ton of work on my van myself and may have attempted this conversion on my own, i sure am glad i had a professional complete. Plenty of things to consider that is good to have someone knowledgeable make you aware and talk through with. From deciding to put in new fuel tank, to intercooler heat x placement , to going with diesel bellhousing (no adapter plate needed)and all the little things needed to make that work. His work was top notch. |
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hans j
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| Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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| MarkWard wrote: |
| My feeling is that one day your conversion regardless of type will strand you. The more you can do yourself through the conversion, the better suited you will be for when that day comes. The reason is, the likelyhood a shop would take it in stock is remote enough without saying by the way, it has "X" engine installed. You will need to fix it yourself. |
Yup. Just wait for that p0087 fault!
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Sodo
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Location: Western WA
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| Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:49 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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| MarkWard wrote: |
| the likelyhood a shop would take it in stock is remote enough. |
Claims of "more reliable" require many levels of YMMV.
I've destroyed 2 motors and several gearboxes over 105,000 miles in the learning / spending / renewing / upgrading process.
Currently I think of my conversion as "more reliable than stock" but there were some long spells where I did not think that way.
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MarkWard
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| Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:31 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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| My feeling is that one day your conversion regardless of type will strand you. The more you can do yourself through the conversion, the better suited you will be for when that day comes. The reason is, the likelyhood a shop would take it in stock is remote enough without saying by the way, it has "X" engine installed. You will need to fix it yourself. |
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Sodo
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| Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:37 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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| Phishman068 wrote: |
"this is the most streamlined Vanagon conversion kit on the market."
-Boxeer website homepage
<snip>...... So since this is apparently marketed as easier and more fool-proof then the Bostig conversion.....
Am I just reading that wrong?
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Its all relative. Perhaps just the diesel intercooler install is comparable
to an entire Bostig conversion.
.....there's a LOT more to a Diesel conversion than the intercooler install 
But there are LOTS of capable hardheads who enjoy a complex project.
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vanis13
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| Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:18 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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| e.facchinei wrote: |
Just finished installing. Absolutely lovely so far.
Make sure you or whoever is doing this install is a top notch vanagon mechanic and you will be satisfied. Takes a lot of thought and care to install properly, but the kit itself is super high quality and has a ton of thought put into it. |
Glad it's looking good for you! Nice to see such a report as it's different from others.
Please share who did your install? Likely others going this direction would like to have such a good experience.
See you joined a few days ago and this is your first post. Looking forward to updates on either direction. And we love pictures!
Welcome to the samba. |
It would be great if the OP wrote who did this great install with contact info for them ....Otherwise it looks like a plant/troll writing something untrue 
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MarkWard
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:08 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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| Related, but not. We have customers bring us all sorts of aftermarket kit. They purchase and then realize its above their pay grade. What's also common is how much massaging most aftermarket stuff takes to actually install properly. |
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Phishman068
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vanis13
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:33 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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| e.facchinei wrote: |
Just finished installing. Absolutely lovely so far.
Make sure you or whoever is doing this install is a top notch vanagon mechanic and you will be satisfied. Takes a lot of thought and care to install properly, but the kit itself is super high quality and has a ton of thought put into it. |
Glad it's looking good for you! Nice to see such a report as it's different from others.
Please share who did your install? Likely others going this direction would like to have such a good experience.
See you joined a few days ago and this is your first post. Looking forward to updates on either direction. And we love pictures!
Welcome to the samba.
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e.facchinei
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:57 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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Just finished installing. Absolutely lovely so far.
Make sure you or whoever is doing this install is a top notch vanagon mechanic and you will be satisfied. Takes a lot of thought and care to install properly, but the kit itself is super high quality and has a ton of thought put into it. |
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vanis13
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| Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:42 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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| Mark Lewalski wrote: |
So what ever became of the OP and his Boxeer conversion? I have some interest in this but wanted to know what long term findings he has.
Mark |
Have you tried PM?
It is an interesting situation with reports of those speaking anything but completely satisfied being cut off from any help and the help that was given was sparse to start with.
There are several posts on here about folk's experience. Seems like mreuter is especially active and providing independent solutions for folks ostracized from Boxeer.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=740963&start=120
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=750286&start=180
Somewhere in there you will find my writing about Greg as he and wife stayed at my home on the way back from their S America trip. I REALLY liked those guys and Greg is Super smart. you'll find my experience of visiting Boxeer a couple years ago. As a VW accessory manufacturing the guy (way less complicated that Boxeer) that brought the Land Rover mirror brackets to the US, I have away different approach to customer service/interaction and I hope (and seems to be written about) that the way some failures from a bad production run was handled was much appreciated by the users.
Let us know what you find. It would be interesting to see a chronicle of the experiences and decision making of someone considering going into the Boxeer tribe.
PS, I'm in Tampa area for the winter with my van. Would be fun to meet up and say hi!...I'll also send a PM Andy 505-304-5306
PPS, If I ever move to FL with my van, will I have to change my name to Mark? 
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Mark Lewalski
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| Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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So what ever became of the OP and his Boxeer conversion? I have some interest in this but wanted to know what long term findings he has.
Mark
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dublife13
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| Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:59 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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| I now see boxeer splash ads on the forum....guess that means the owner has recently interacted with the samba...I wish he would also (rather?) interact with the community and post up/respond to some of the items written about his product. |
I see in that ad they have a new 180hp using the 1.4 TSI motor? would love to konw more about that setup. It isnt on their webiste. |
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vanis13
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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I now see boxeer splash ads on the forum....guess that means the owner has recently interacted with the samba...I wish he would also (rather?) interact with the community and post up/respond to some of the items written about his product.
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Walty87
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:49 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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I've been following Chad's channel for a long time!
What a cool build! He seems to go all out with everything he does. And dang that whole automatic gas peddle setup... seems complicated. I hope the automatic transmission can handle the new motor!
With that being said, I really like how small the wiring harness is compared to the stock engines.
Excited to see more Vanagon content from him! |
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vanis13
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:51 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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| 0cean wrote: |
| , but this is the venders thread. |
How so? The initial post was by some guy that hasn't been in the samba since 2021.
I bet many would love and appreciate if the vendor took active communication in this thread.
What folks, even those with the swap, on here are citing product and communication issues. What they are NOT saying is "This is an awesome swap! Get it!"
..... Seems that most consistent love and good support statements like that are for the FAS followed by the Small Car. I really like how the new Small Car owner posts and responds on here.
And your experience is different, you don't even have the swap being discussed. Yours is the prior EE-20. Maybe vendor has more affinity for that. He certainly loved it when he and his family stayed at my house at the end of their S America trip with that platform Too bad that wasn't viable. It seemed better/easier in some way.
.... Maybe those with the new product are having valid issues you can't appreciate/see with the different product you have.
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| [My build is the last of the Subaru EE-20's and alot of years later im still getting support from Greg. |
It would really be great to see communication from vendor on this product like he has had for his rear seat lounger mod product.
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0cean
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:44 am Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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| 0cean wrote: |
| . No ones kit is perfect, yet this kit is critisized like crazy. |
Seems like
Then for apparently everyone but you 0cean, communication with seller/creator is difficult. That I CAN speak to since that has been my experience.
0cean you also mentioned "another vandor" bashing the kit. That is not apparent to me from this thread. Can you be specific in your example? |
Comunication:
I think some people expect instant responce and dont realize the vender is not Amazon. I have had to wait a bit for a responce also, yet im not going to bash a company because imn being patient. L
Example
All you need to do is look at all the stearing away to differiant conversions. Nothing wrong with talking options, but this is the venders thread. Not the place for this type of talk. I hear alot of complaining about normal conversion issues being brought up (nit picking) and then saying but go with this engine conversion instead. (Usually old conversions that are out of date).
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: OFFICIAL: Boxeer.com 2.0 TDI CR engine review thread |
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