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 Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:17 am Post subject: Re: '90 Westy Throttle pedal pop-rivet size |
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Problem resolved: Affordable German (1510 W. Broadway Rd Phoenix AZ) collected our Westy from the storage unit. #1 on the to-do list is "fix gas pedal rivets"". Since the Westy made it back to the shop, it's safe to assume Bill took care of the problem. Whew!
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FWIW item #2A&B is R&R front and rear oil seals (big ticket but every try in the Phila. has been a waste of time and money), #3 R&R fuel injectors (GW came up with new injectors, better suited to their EFI package). We have a noticeable stumble, making the old injectors questionable, #4 is to remove the old 15" rim & spare tire and mod the clamshell to take Small Car Perfomance's 16" rim & tire packed to fit the OEM clamshell, #5 is add a kill switch (see below), #6&7 are minor "while you're at it" items.
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For anyone with the GW EFI, the best choice for a kill switch is to break the blu/wht wire coming from the crank angle sensor. The blu/wht wire appears at the cam angle senor (looks like a distributor). The wires at the crank angle sensor are not the same colors used at the cam angle sensor! Do not break wires at the sensor. The results of putting the switch on the blu/wht is the engine cranks but won't fire.
The above is the equivalent of breaking the hot wire to the coil. The GW EFI uses coil packs; no single wire to break. Yes, killing the fuel pump eventually kills the motor. For those who set the switch, come back, drive off forgetting the switch...? IMHO, killing the fuel pump is a bad idea.
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The detail-oriented will note the new spare is a step up from the old spare. Given we now have disks on all wheels, a 15" rim is a waste of time. It wasn't until we were (literally) sitting in the desert near Joshua Tree NP that it dawned on me that... "we have no spare tire!" Doh! That we survived this far without a problem is a miracle of this or any age. Doh.
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Affordable German, in Phoenix, did some work on the Westy the last two times we were in the Phoenix area (we save the good ones for those trips... hah!). Bill gets the job done right, at a reasonable price. This is why we're letting him do the major surgery (oil seals) on this trip.
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RBEmerson
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: '90 Westy Throttle pedal pop-rivet size |
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:) :) :) :)
Do I get points for having an Uncle Sumner? ;D ;D
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RBEmerson
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: '90 Westy Throttle pedal pop-rivet size |
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| Was the clamshell dropped to get to that? |
Lower the clamshell and remove the spare. Bob’s your uncle. |
Actually, I had an Uncle Bob. LOL
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RBEmerson
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: '90 Westy Throttle pedal pop-rivet size |
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A couple of SS screws will work.
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Do you recall what size (number 6, 8, 10)? Carrying the right hardware back to PHX is a big win for us. |
Sorry I don't recall. I have so much hardware around the house, that I just grabbed what I thought would work. They are short and slightly thick though. |
Hmmm... sounds like maybe #10. I've a bunch of stainless hardware left over from out boat. There's probably a winner in there. Toss in some thread locker, and life should be good.
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RBEmerson
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: '90 Westy Throttle pedal pop-rivet size |
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| Timwhy wrote: |
| A couple of SS screws will work. |
Do you recall what size (number 6, 8, 10)? Carrying the right hardware back to PHX is a big win for us.
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RBEmerson
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: '90 Westy Throttle pedal pop-rivet size |
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| Argh... I was afraid of that. |
You can just make out the fasteners for the accelerator pedal on either side of the tube that carries the cable.
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Was the clamshell dropped to get to that?
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ragnarhairybreeks
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: '90 Westy Throttle pedal pop-rivet size |
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| RBEmerson wrote: |
Um, but they're not really blind. I suppose a plastic molly would work. Kinda... plastic on hole in steel, and screws that aren't stainless. Better that running a cable tie through the two holes, and pulling everything very, very tight. No screw problem, but plastic meets steel remains.
Screw and nut is probably the best answer. IF I can get to the under side of the floor. Not having a Westy or Bentley handy, I'\ve got no answer to that leetle teeny question. |
They can be installed from the inside. No need to go under van.
I did it, was easy. But suit yourself with bolts and nuts 
Alistair
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RBEmerson
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: '90 Westy Throttle pedal pop-rivet size |
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Argh... I was afraid of that.
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RBEmerson
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: '90 Westy Throttle pedal pop-rivet size |
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Um, but they're not really blind. I suppose a plastic molly would work. Kinda... plastic on hole in steel, and screws that aren't stainless. Better that running a cable tie through the two holes, and pulling everything very, very tight. No screw problem, but plastic meets steel remains.
Screw and nut is probably the best answer. IF I can get to the under side of the floor. Not having a Westy or Bentley handy, I'\ve got no answer to that leetle teeny question.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: '90 Westy Throttle pedal pop-rivet size |
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It’s a trade name, many other brands.
https://www.rivetnutusa.com/rivnut-rivet-nut/
Get a range of sizes, you’ll find uses, and just buy or make the simple bolt type install tool.
Alistair
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RBEmerson
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: '90 Westy Throttle pedal pop-rivet size |
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"riv nuts"? What are these "riv nuts" you speak of?
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: '90 Westy Throttle pedal pop-rivet size |
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Hi,
I did mine with riv nuts and stainless machine screws. No need to get to the backside of floor.
Alistair
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RBEmerson
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: '90 Westy Throttle pedal pop-rivet size |
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| 4Gears4Tires wrote: |
I put 2 coarse thread screws through mine.
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Easy - no access from under the Westy needed, but... I've had self-tappers do nasty things in cases of load, no load, load, etc. I'll stick with stainless hardware and Nylok nuts. [/smile]
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