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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2025 9:11 pm    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

adjustable shaft Pioneer super tuner with other things plugged in thru the aux.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2025 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

A cool modern/retro stereo.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-cassette-deck-on...tvEDNuXFjA

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

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So after much Teslaing, I went a different route. I had a everything I had removed from my type 34 30 yrs ago, and had stashed it away. I installed a 4 way 100W amp and a 10" JBL sub under the rear seat, ran the wires through the grooves into the spare tire well under the seat to a pre amp with 2 aux inputs and a front jack input and onto some Pioneer 100w shelf speakers that fit into the parcel trays under the dash. Since I don't have a head unit, I power it on with an on/off small push button that fit in a hole on the dash under the radio plate cover that the PO had made.

Now I have clear sharp high treble, low vocals that sound clear and nice deep low bass. The shelf speakers aim up, so I can clearly hear all music. Anything from Dire Straits "Sultans of Swing" to Patrick Hernandez's " Born to be alive" No drilling except to affix a board for the amp and the fuse boxes. I installed a Bluetooth receiver with AUX outputs, but it had a lot of static. I was very disappointed that Bluetooth music cannot be adjusted with an eq. I went around that with the Apple lightning plug to 3.5 mm jack plug adapter.

I was surprised that my old 64G Ipod had better sound and more volume than my Iphone 14, both streaming and in phone music. My dash still looks nice and plane and I have great sound. Total add on cost $20 Just FYI.


Thank You all for all your input.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2025 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

Another option is to create a bespoke bracket to mount an audio unit beneath the dashboard, which is easier to reach without leaning forward or stretching; especially if wearing a static lap & diagonal seat belt. One can then use the centre aperture for three 52 mm accessory gauges.

I personally favour a Blaupunkt Toronto SQR46 or SQR48, which when new in the early-to-mid-1980s cost about £300.

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They feature an audio-cassette player with auto-reverse, plus long, medium &SHORT wave band plus FM-VHF radio; all with output to four speakers, with balance controls front to rear & side to side.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:27 pm    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

jtauxe wrote:
Funny story: When I got the radio, I first tested it on the bench, with 12 V input and a speaker. I kid you not that the first thing to come out of this German radio was Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries! That was a special moment.


SO awesome!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:28 pm    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

I found that a 20 year old single DIN Sony with a removable front plate slid right in and sounds decent. I have 2 speakers in the front kick panels and a Retrosound dual tone in the original speaker space under the dash as well as 2 speakers in the rear cabinet under the bed.

Something mello


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or something a little more lively...


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:20 pm    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestion. But that unit is 7" by 2". Your installer or the previous owner probably enlarged the opening. Yes, I have seen those too! Maybe just maybe I will have to do the same.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

I got this cheapo option in Amazon last year, replaced the stock radio, which got ungodly amounts of interference.

https://www.amazon.com.mx/EBTOOLS-Bluetooth-Est%C3...b&th=1

No need to cut the dash, fits perfectly within and the guy installed it in less than 30 minutes.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:48 am    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

On my 1975 single cab, built to European spec, the radio model was specified on the M-code plate, as Blaupunkt Ingolstadt. I managed to find one for sale from Germany, and it fits just fine, even on the non-padded dash.

Funny story: When I got the radio, I first tested it on the bench, with 12 V input and a speaker. I kid you not that the first thing to come out of this German radio was Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries! That was a special moment.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:43 am    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

ALLWAGONS wrote:
Has anyone tried the Memphis Audio headless unit. It is app based, am/fm/bluetooth. AUX for front and rear amp. $299 and come with one simple 5 button remote.


That looks liek a pretty good method. I looked around for a little while and can find a lot of people who sell the unit but mayber a total of 8 reviews...cumulative average of about 3.5 to 4.0.

Found one install video from some hot rod guy on YouTube. He has an earlier version without the rotary knob on the five button control.

A couple of items, the USB is a charger line only. It does have a headphone jack type plug in but not sure if its a line in. The USB line is a charger only so it looks like its entirely Bluetooth. The in-app volume only goes in notches/steps and is not infinite adjustment (some complain too loud some complain not loud enough).

Looks fairly complete for the basics though. I wnted to see more of what adjustments are in the app but the buy just showed what tabs there are and not what is under the tabs for adjustments.

The price is decent if it does what it says. Ray
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

Has anyone tried the Memphis Audio headless unit. It is app based, am/fm/bluetooth. AUX for front and rear amp. $299 and come with one simple 5 button remote.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

71whitewesty wrote:
JBL bluetooth speaker. Throw it on the dash and you're done. Seriously, that's the best option. Doesn't use your battery, sounds great, awesome for campsites and even other vehicles. Cool


Sure nothing wrong with that at all....if all you want is basic sounds and connection to your media. It would not really work for me. But, If you want better sound quality and other functions....there are other ways.

It really comes down to what you want and need in your audio system. I think there are numerous philosophy. None are better than any other.

Other than just fitting in the dash or just being "some" level of music or audio (and I realize the bus has some special issues with ambient noise, interior volume and speaker placement options).....it is unbelievable what is available function and quality wise if one were to shop around for it and is willing to do a little work.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

JBL bluetooth speaker. Throw it on the dash and you're done. Seriously, that's the best option. Doesn't use your battery, sounds great, awesome for campsites and even other vehicles. Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

metahacker wrote:


i also faced a similar dilemma...and decided to make my own....

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at first, i started somewhat out of necessity.... when the original blaupunkt died....i took it out and used the faceplate to hack up a quick solution with a circuit board i was playing with.

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then i thought it would be fun to model a real solution like it.

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it uses a class D amplifier chip so 98+% power efficient unlike the class A MOSFET that most use (typical for those is 25% efficiency up to 50% theoretical...which is why almost all car audio amps are mostly giant heat sinks)....
class D is perfect for playing music in a camper for hours and hours without wasting your battery.

it has a dedicated subwoofer amp in addition to the stereo amp..... so i get a full "aftermarket stereo" style setup equivalent to installing a bluetooth head unit and 2 dedicated amplifiers..... but it's just a tiny board on the back of the panel i made.

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i'm working on a new version with a much higher power board

theoretical power on the new one is >200W stereo + >300W sub-woofer...
uses a Class D amp chip design from a U.S. company....


going to use multi-filament printing tech (e.g. colored labels)....


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^ just playing around (probably will stick to black).

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have been experimenting with some cool new knobs that should make it look nice (both some printed multi color ones and some others like Moog replicas)....should go well with the colored inset labels...

planning make a Vanagon version too.. since i built a T3 recently, it's going to need a cool stereo, too..

i thought about making more for other people, not sure whether anyone would want to buy something like this, though.

personally, i think it's really cool, though....the minimally invasive installation combined with ultra-power-efficiency and the equivalent performance of a head unit + 2 separate amps in such a tiny space really makes me happy.



Very nice!

I know the pain. While its not hard to find good automotive amps with class D amplifiers....it can be $$$ and space and form factor becomes an issue.

Its why I am always shopping and comparing on the move toward what eventually goes into my system in my 412. I have a great head unit already, a whole range of excellent speakers I can mix and match with, finally settled on a DAC unit and slowly settling on my amp(s). Ray
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2025 1:24 pm    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote



i also faced a similar dilemma...and decided to make my own....

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at first, i started somewhat out of necessity.... when the original blaupunkt died....i took it out and used the faceplate to hack up a quick solution with a circuit board i was playing with.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



then i thought it would be fun to model a real solution like it.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.



it uses a class D amplifier chip so 98+% power efficient unlike the class A MOSFET that most use (typical for those is 25% efficiency up to 50% theoretical...which is why almost all car audio amps are mostly giant heat sinks)....
class D is perfect for playing music in a camper for hours and hours without wasting your battery.

it has a dedicated subwoofer amp in addition to the stereo amp..... so i get a full "aftermarket stereo" style setup equivalent to installing a bluetooth head unit and 2 dedicated amplifiers..... but it's just a tiny board on the back of the panel i made.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


i'm working on a new version with a much higher power board

theoretical power on the new one is >200W stereo + >300W sub-woofer...
uses a Class D amp chip design from a U.S. company....


going to use multi-filament printing tech (e.g. colored labels)....


Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


^ just playing around (probably will stick to black).

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


have been experimenting with some cool new knobs that should make it look nice (both some printed multi color ones and some others like Moog replicas)....should go well with the colored inset labels...

planning make a Vanagon version too.. since i built a T3 recently, it's going to need a cool stereo, too..

i thought about making more for other people, not sure whether anyone would want to buy something like this, though.

personally, i think it's really cool, though....the minimally invasive installation combined with ultra-power-efficiency and the equivalent performance of a head unit + 2 separate amps in such a tiny space really makes me happy.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 6:31 pm    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

My dash is flat and not padded. The radio opening measures 7” across and 1 3/4” top to bottom. I currently have a radio delete plate that fits like a glove, making me believe, that opening has not been altered with.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

Awesome!

That's what I am talking about.

Thanks Again Guys!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

Here is another really cool updated release.

Blaupunkt Franfurt RCM82 from Classiccarstereos.com

https://www.classiccarstereos.com/blaupunkt-frankf...GiEALw_wcB

All modern guts, late 1980's copy of the Blaupunkt Frankfurt AM/FM/ cassette deck with phone mic and bluetooth.

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Thats a good looking deck! Very classic late 80's, Notice what is under where teh cassette would have been. But dang...$623

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:44 am    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

I installed this Alpine with removable face plate about 25 years ago after another break in and car stereo theft. This installed with no dash cutting. Looks like there are some similar, smaller type units available at Walmart and other retailers, but I don't know if they are a direct fit. Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:21 am    Post subject: Re: What Radio are you using that DOESNt require cutting dash Reply with quote

Here is a used Blaupunkt CR-2001 ....late 70s through 1982. Am/Fm/cassette with volume and tuner knob. Very basic but good units. I think these were actually produced in Japan.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/124802154325

But dang...used...untested....as-is....$200

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