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Paslode235 Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject: Cleaning Door Locks |
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Hey a while back a saw someone a while back, gave a site for dismantling and cleaning door locks. I can't seem to find that site anymore. Can anyone help me out?!?!?!? _________________ "We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give." Sir Winston Churchill
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Karl Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Go here: http://www.type2.com
On the left side, look for Ness-Tek about halfway down.
Click on Ness-Tek.
Scroll down in technical articles to the last one in body. Click on the latch picture. |
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pb24ss Samba Member

Joined: June 30, 2005 Posts: 1665 Location: sitting around the fire with the bluegrass band - colorado
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Buscuss Samba Member

Joined: January 09, 2007 Posts: 282 Location: in the waiting room, Central Coast
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject: Cleaning Door Locks |
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Van Ness really doesn't tell you how to clean the locks.
Many, many years ago, when I was in basic training, a cook sgt. gave some of us a tip on how to clean the small spaces of an M-1 Garand trigger mechanism - boil it in soapy water. Rinse in clear boiling water and hang to dry, which it will, quickly as it's hot.
That isn't how I cleaned my door locks, though it's an option. I used, since it was on the shelf, carb cleaner. Spray. Let it sit a bit. Blow out with air. Repeat until clean. Mine took three cycles. Lubed per Van Ness. Works like buttah. _________________ WTB swivel table hdwr.
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Paslode235 Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the advise but I think I should be more specific. The site I am looking for talks about and shows how to remove the Key cylinder out of the door handles and how to clean them. Thats what I'm looking for. I have some sticky door locks and I want to know what is the best way to go about cleaning them with out losing parts of the cylinder. Thanks everyone!! _________________ "We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give." Sir Winston Churchill
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pb24ss Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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sticky door locks are the result of gummed up locking mechanisms. see the pics above. it generally has nothing to do with the cylinder, but rather the 30 years of build up in the actual mechanism. the key and cylinder just rotate the nub that activates the mechanism. |
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mintonman Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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Just take them apart & remember how it goes back together, they are not hard to do, but be sure to make a note as to wich tumbler goes in wich slot or your key won't work. Here's a before & after of my 1959 treasure chest door lock. This has no screws holding it together, just metal posts with flattened ends wich I had to make by hand to reassemble correctly. Bay locks are very easy to do & the only thing to loose from the cylinders is a spring/springs or a tumbler. As you pull the tumbler out go slow cause the tumblers can shoot out along with their springs. Good luck
My cylinder was all siezed up with years of dirt & had to soak it just to get the tumblers & springs out.
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Paslode235 Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Okay what is the best solvent to clean the tumblers with? Could I use an ultra sonic cleaner (one used for jewelry) and clean them up? It seems that would work out the best since it would get all the little stuff off of it. _________________ "We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give." Sir Winston Churchill
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mintonman Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, if you have access to one that would be great. A dab of dish soap will help as well, it will cut the grease if any is left on there  _________________ Hoockd on fonicks werkt for mee?
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mintonman Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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I should also note that there are not as many tumblers in the cylinder as are shown in my pic above, they were spares for rekeying. _________________ Hoockd on fonicks werkt for mee?
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germansupplyscott Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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i soak them in a jar of lacquer thinners. the ultrasonic bath will work beautifully. _________________ SL |
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AhnwS71 Samba Member
Joined: January 31, 2018 Posts: 215 Location: Huntsville, AL
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: Cleaning Door Locks |
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I was having trouble with a front door lock/open problem. I have taken it all apart and noticed there is no little spring. I have some ready for that, but i am cleaning everything before i put it all back together.
So i have the lock mechanism soaking in kerosene. per some other posts.
How can i clean the lock cylinder? do i have to take if out of the handle?
will spraying in carb cleaner or brake cleaner effect the silver color on the handle if i do not remove the cylinder first?
If so, how do you remove the cylinder without it all coming out in pieces?
Thank you for your input. _________________ '71 Westy
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ivwshane Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:35 pm Post subject: Re: Cleaning Door Locks |
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Put and keep the key in the lock and then remove the screw in the back and then slide the tumbler out. So long as you keep the key in the lock it shouldn't come apart. _________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
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alman72 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:12 am Post subject: Re: Cleaning Door Locks |
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I am getting ready to dive into my passenger door. It "locks" with the key, or the lever inside by the opening handle (it is a 73) HOWEVER, when you grab the outer handle and try to open the locked door, it just opens!. I do have a thicker door card than stock on the door that I suspect, but the drivers door works just fine. any thought on what could be going on? |
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AhnwS71 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Cleaning Door Locks |
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ivwshane wrote: |
Put and keep the key in the lock and then remove the screw in the back and then slide the tumbler out. So long as you keep the key in the lock it shouldn't come apart. |
Do you push the cylinder in and it come out from the side where the screw is?
I have taken that screw out
and put the key in. I pushed from the key side and nothing budges. _________________ '71 Westy
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alman72 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:47 am Post subject: Re: Cleaning Door Locks |
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vwwestyman wrote: |
On that '73 door: If you lock it from the inside, are you holding the outside door handle "trigger" as you shut the door? Or just shutting it?
If you don't hold the trigger as you close the door, it'll unlock itself. That's to help keep you from locking your keys in. |
even using a key on the outside it wont stay locked. the inside tab pulls in like its locked, but the door opens from the outside and the tab pops back out (lock the door tab, button, lever thing by the inside open latch) |
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kreemoweet Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:38 am Post subject: Re: Cleaning Door Locks |
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AhnwS71 wrote: |
Do you push the cylinder in and it come out from the side where the screw is? |
There's a tiny grub screw holding the lock cylinder in the body. M2.6x4 if I recall. After it's removed the cylinder
will just pull out with the key. _________________ '67 bug: seized by the authorities
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AhnwS71 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: Cleaning Door Locks |
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[quote="kreemoweet
There's a tiny grub screw holding the lock cylinder in the body. M2.6x4 if I recall. After it's removed the cylinder
will just pull out with the key.[/quote]
You are correct sir. I had to hit it with a Dremel to find it.
Tiny bugger. thank you _________________ '71 Westy
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ivwshane Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Cleaning Door Locks |
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AhnwS71 wrote: |
ivwshane wrote: |
Put and keep the key in the lock and then remove the screw in the back and then slide the tumbler out. So long as you keep the key in the lock it shouldn't come apart. |
Do you push the cylinder in and it come out from the side where the screw is?
I have taken that screw out
and put the key in. I pushed from the key side and nothing budges. |
Interesting. I don't recall a grub screw on my handle (77). _________________ 77 westy 2.0 FI
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