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66bus Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2002 Posts: 5
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2002 6:46 pm Post subject: Side Air Scoops |
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| I was wanting to know the pro's and con's with the side air scoops |
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budmanbusfan Samba Member

Joined: March 22, 2002 Posts: 18
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2002 12:03 am Post subject: Side Air Scoops |
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| A fine mechanic explained once; the scoops are actually limiting the amount of air into the compartment rather than forcing more air as you drive. ie: the opening to the scoop compared to the opening of the side vent. There is also the idea that the VW engineers probably had alot of testing to support their final design. Then again... the '68 up has high mounted scoops built into the body. I guess I didn't help much. |
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23window Samba Member

Joined: November 25, 2001 Posts: 838
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2002 12:18 pm Post subject: Side Air Scoops |
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| I personally don't like their appearance, which to me is a "con". my opinion though. |
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chiroracer Samba Member

Joined: August 03, 2006 Posts: 348 Location: long beach
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Side Air Scoops |
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Just got a bus with them and hacked rear arches and an external oil cooler . I am going to rock them and am open to some 70s style glass flares as well. I would never do this to a bus without them but they stay for now. _________________ 66 bajawestfalia
2/1600 buggy Kreger chassis 4 baja 1000(waiting to re emerge)
71 911 track car
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Stocknazi Samba Member

Joined: June 18, 2004 Posts: 5543
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Side Air Scoops |
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Wonder how much $$$ VW spent on the research/development of the engine intake vents back in the 1950's?
Why create a solution to the problem if it doesn't exist?
PS they look like hot garbage.  _________________ WANTED:
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KTPhil  Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 36263 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: Side Air Scoops |
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If you use them be sure to place the safety decal in front of the intake.
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Clara  Samba Member

Joined: June 14, 2003 Posts: 12654
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: Side Air Scoops |
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Good for catching peanut shells you chuck out the window
This bus is now OG paint, and the scoops and flares have been binned, but still haven’t gotten around to fixing the wheel arches and the rust repair. But it’s taken us a lot of miles.
Fwiw, To make your engine run cool, install all the tin and pieces supposed to be there. To make it warm up properly, ditto. _________________ The Obsolete Air-Cooled Documentation Project http://oacdp.org/ |
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Clara  Samba Member

Joined: June 14, 2003 Posts: 12654
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: Side Air Scoops |
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| chiroracer wrote: |
| Just got a bus with them and hacked rear arches and an external oil cooler . I am going to rock them and am open to some 70s style glass flares as well. I would never do this to a bus without them but they stay for now. |
Are you interested in some Cragars? _________________ The Obsolete Air-Cooled Documentation Project http://oacdp.org/ |
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don.ville  Samba YardMan

Joined: February 07, 2008 Posts: 2956 Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Side Air Scoops |
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| budmanbusfan wrote: |
| A fine mechanic explained once; the scoops are actually limiting the amount of air into the compartment rather than forcing more air as you drive. ie: the opening to the scoop compared to the opening of the side vent. There is also the idea that the VW engineers probably had alot of testing to support their final design. Then again... the '68 up has high mounted scoops built into the body. I guess I didn't help much. |
as the bus engines got bigger, they made OG scoops.
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pyrOman Fire Master

Joined: July 21, 2003 Posts: 12567 Location: Over 2002 posts deleted!
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: Side Air Scoops |
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| chiroracer wrote: |
| Just got a bus with them and hacked rear arches and an external oil cooler . I am going to rock them and am open to some 70s style glass flares as well. I would never do this to a bus without them but they stay for now. |
IMHO, cut wheel wells should be fixed...
or rock on some phat ass tires on the back!  _________________ Some people are so busy being clever they don't have time enough to be wise. |
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Malokin Martin Samba Member

Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 3304 Location: E-burg
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Side Air Scoops |
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I can’t remember who posted a thread on this… it was like a decade ago on here. I want to say it was Clara or Amskeptic. But I can’t remember. They actually did road tests with cardboard “scoops” and without using a CHT. I’m way too lazy to search for it.
I do remember that they significantly lowered engine temps.
The con is they look lame and put holes in the bus in a noticeable area when the next owner wants to rip them off. |
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velvetgreen Samba Member

Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 2915 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Side Air Scoops |
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| wanna say that Clara posted something say a decade or so back but that was a long time ago. |
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Clara  Samba Member

Joined: June 14, 2003 Posts: 12654
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:42 am Post subject: Re: Side Air Scoops |
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| velvetgreen wrote: |
| wanna say that Clara posted something say a decade or so back but that was a long time ago. |
Yes, it was with actual real plastic scoops, and using a thermocoupler on the head. and various other sensors.
It dropped the temp in the engine compartment to match the outside air temp, and dropped the head temps by the same amount. ( w/o scoops the air temp in engine compartment is warmer than outside)
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=900179&highlight=#900179
so yes they work, but they are ugly. if your engine is actually overheating, first install all the missing tin.
a few threads on scoops:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/search.php?searc..._chars=200 _________________ The Obsolete Air-Cooled Documentation Project http://oacdp.org/ |
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velvetgreen Samba Member

Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 2915 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:49 am Post subject: Re: Side Air Scoops |
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| ^^^Thanks Clara- wow that was two decades ago- where does the time go? |
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chiroracer Samba Member

Joined: August 03, 2006 Posts: 348 Location: long beach
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Side Air Scoops |
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LOL no cragars but I would love some vintage flares if they havent picked up the trash yet.
Will def be using some oversize meats on rear and I have a 68 bay beam .
Needs to be able to drive on beach. _________________ 66 bajawestfalia
2/1600 buggy Kreger chassis 4 baja 1000(waiting to re emerge)
71 911 track car
65 kombi EZ camper (sold to OG owner in oregon)
69 class 11 racecar Sold to GH racing now the famous Dora SCOREchampion
70 class 11 prerunner |
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don.ville  Samba YardMan

Joined: February 07, 2008 Posts: 2956 Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Side Air Scoops |
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| 66bus wrote: |
| I was wanting to know the pro's and con's with the side air scoops |
I liked this post.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=150862#150862
If you have the stock engine and all original tin then you shouldn't ever need one.
1600 or larger, you could do a few tricks to keep the engine bay pressurized. _________________
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