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Dale M. Samba Member

Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20851 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:57 am Post subject: 2 Cylinder AC VW Motor? |
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2 cylinder AC VW motor???
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Think a few may get a giggle out of this....
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orangesuper Samba Member

Joined: January 06, 2007 Posts: 380 Location: Moretown, VT
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:02 am Post subject: |
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These turn up on eBay every once in a while there is (or was) a crowd of ultralight airplane guys that would do variations this mod for a (relatively) cheap alternative to airplane specific motors. I always thought this would be a cool engine for a vw powered motorcycle although you would likely have to do a ton of preformance mods to make enough hp for it to be much fun on a bike. |
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Mal evolent Samba Member

Joined: March 31, 2009 Posts: 2923 Location: San Antonio, Nuevo Mexico
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slalombuggy Samba Member

Joined: July 17, 2010 Posts: 9335 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:45 am Post subject: |
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We had a few at the ACVW shop I worked at. One guy built half an 1835 a couple others were half 1914s. Also hada few 4cyl airplne motors with twin plug conversions. Cool stuff.
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clonebug Samba Member

Joined: January 29, 2005 Posts: 4130 Location: NW Washington
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:45 am Post subject: |
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I have a set of plans for the half VW engine that i bought in the mid eighties when I was heavy into the ultralight and experimental airplane scene.
My plan actually cuts the case in half too so you don't have to plug the holes.
It's pretty cool but you need to do a bit of machining in order for it to work out nicely. _________________
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skabonner Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Even cooler, a while back I saw a video of some guys in brazil who were welding cases together to make 6 and 8 cylinder engines. But I couldn't find any other info, other than a grainy video of one of the engines idling.  _________________
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Joel Mohr Samba Member
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JustBuggy Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:07 am Post subject: |
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skabonner wrote: |
Even cooler, a while back I saw a video of some guys in brazil who were welding cases together to make 6 and 8 cylinder engines. But I couldn't find any other info, other than a grainy video of one of the engines idling.  |
Now THAT is one I'd like to see!!!! |
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Multi69s Samba Member

Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 5560 Location: Lefty, CA
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Boolean Samba Member

Joined: January 19, 2012 Posts: 1712 Location: Stockholm
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:27 am Post subject: |
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I think they extend the crank and put a special prop bearing where the pulley was before. Thrust loads are taken there.
*edit* Can't see it clearly in the photo though... I know this is done on the full VW conversions. |
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mondshine Samba Member

Joined: October 27, 2006 Posts: 2813 Location: The World's Motor Capital
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Lots of interesting stuff out there....
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markhuebbe Samba Member

Joined: March 08, 2006 Posts: 379 Location: St. Louis, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Boolean wrote: |
I think they extend the crank and put a special prop bearing where the pulley was before. Thrust loads are taken there.
*edit* Can't see it clearly in the photo though... I know this is done on the full VW conversions. |
That's how my full VW engine is in my airplane. The 1/2 VWs normally don't need the bigger bearing and just use a stock bearing. The thrust loads aren't that high to require it.
Also, you can cut the case in half to save even more weight. My father had over 1000 hours on his 1/2 VW and it ran great. _________________ 1970 Beetle - Rally car
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torsionbar Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:08 am Post subject: |
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looks like suicide to me. you won't get me into any airplane powered by one of those things! a lycoming, sure, but not a hacked up beetle motor. _________________
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Michael Fischer Samba Member
Joined: April 20, 2004 Posts: 1585 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:41 am Post subject: Re: 2 Cylinder AC VW Motor? |
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Giggle?
I have been wanting to try this for a long time. People I have talked to claim 70 plus miles to the gallon. |
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markhuebbe Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:45 am Post subject: |
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torsionbar wrote: |
looks like suicide to me. you won't get me into any airplane powered by one of those things! a lycoming, sure, but not a hacked up beetle motor. |
The Beetle motor has been successfully used for millions of hours in experimental aircraft since the 60s. _________________ 1970 Beetle - Rally car
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wompninja Samba Member

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Michael Fischer Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:47 am Post subject: |
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wompninja wrote: |
I don't get the point, wouldn't this just make the engine run a lot rougher than it already is? |
70 plus miles to the gallon.
You get the point now?  |
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wompninja Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I don't buy it. If you are so worried about mileage and you want a two cylinder engine why not use a v-twin out of a Honda motorcycle? _________________ Pics of my 1970 Satin Black Type 1 build |
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wompninja Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Not to mention cutting the already too small 40hp in half... good luck driving that on the road. _________________ Pics of my 1970 Satin Black Type 1 build |
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Michael Fischer Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:58 am Post subject: |
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So you have tried it?
Or you are just rich and don't care?  |
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