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fasty69
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oh no, this is going to turn into the KY thread again LOL
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notchboy
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That just dried out my rubber, and made a mess.  Oh well... |
Its better if a girl puts it on 
Stuff works grat for all my original German stuff. Dont know what to tell you dude.
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Adriel Rowley
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| notchboy wrote: |
| Adriel Rowley wrote: |
That just dried out my rubber, and made a mess. Oh well... |
Its better if a girl puts it on
Stuff works grat for all my original German stuff. Dont know what to tell you dude. |
That would be the day. Hey hon, can you jelly my rubber? Somehow, that does not sound right...  Apparently Jack puts it on before washing the car, which is probably the way to do it. But, if the rubber touches anything, it transfers the jelly.
Could it be the difference from going to cool moist coast to arid dry summer?
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localboy
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I swear to God  ...all of you and your amateur chemistry; "this works, I use that..."..."no that's junk, it's bad".  
Why not let people who know WTH their doing create the products? I put two links above with products DESIGNED for auto rubber and what do we get after? Vaseline, veggie oil, di-electric grease...use this, don't use that.
On my car I'd use products MADE FOR CARS. You got dry skin? Vaseline. You wanna deep fry some potatos? Veggie oil. Wanna stop your auto electric components from corroding? Di-electric grease.
Come on people. 
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Tram
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| localboy wrote: |
I swear to God ...all of you and your amateur chemistry; "this works, I use that..."..."no that's junk, it's bad".
Why not let people who know WTH their doing create the products? I put two links above with products DESIGNED for auto rubber and what do we get after? Vaseline, veggie oil, di-electric grease...use this, don't use that.
On my car I'd use products MADE FOR CARS. You got dry skin? Vaseline. You wanna deep fry some potatos? Veggie oil. Wanna stop your auto electric components from corroding? Di-electric grease.
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VW used to recommend treating rubber parts with talcum powder.
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Gizmobob
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http://www.autogeek.net/meg40vinrubc.html
I'm told that this is one of the best products to use... this stuff will actually revitalize cracking rubber and look new again. I have no idea how that works, but I have seen it.
Bob
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notchboy
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localboy
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| Tram wrote: |
| VW used to recommend treating rubber parts with talcum powder. |
And offices used to use typewriters and carbon paper. Times, and chemistry/science, change & advance.
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localboy
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http://www.autogeek.net/meg40vinrubc.html
I'm told that this is one of the best products to use... this stuff will actually revitalize cracking rubber and look new again. I have no idea how that works, but I have seen it.
Bob |
That because it has vasoline in it |
Just say no to "petroleum" jelly...
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Bobnotch
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I just accept it as part of it's aging process. I'll wipe it down with a wet cloth to get the dust and dirt off, but otherwise, nothing.
My Flame suit is on. 
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mygreenbus
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| Adriel Rowley wrote: |
That just dried out my rubber, and made a mess. Oh well... |
There is a reason you aren't supposed to use this on a condom, petroleum. Not that good for rubber products.
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Mike Fisher
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Corn Huskers Lotion with glycerin or Bag Balm with lanolin?
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localboy
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| Corn Huskers Lotion with glycerin or Bag Balm with lanolin? |
How 'bout some BBQ sauce, mixed with some human 'jiz' and finally spit from the African Green-Stiped Lizard?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Tram
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| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| localboy wrote: |
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| VW used to recommend treating rubber parts with talcum powder. |
And offices used to use typewriters and carbon paper. Times, and chemistry/science, change & advance. |
How do NOS rubber parts change and advance, Mark? Aftermarket ones change and advance, that I'll give you. Aftermarket rubber hardens up and cracks in about 1/20th the time the old "non- advanced" stuff did.
You should buy a Bay Bus. That way you could go in there and join the others who tell people how the other factory specs and recommendations no longer apply because "times have changed" and these cars "are 40 years old now".
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| Just my hands. And a little lube. No tools. |
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notchboy
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| Corn Huskers Lotion with glycerin or Bag Balm with lanolin? |
How 'bout some BBQ sauce, mixed with some human 'jiz' and finally spit from the African Green-Stiped Lizard?!?!?!?!?!?! |
You need the de-caff mate.
All Im sayin is my wifes tale vasoline tonic works-and has worked since Ive owned my 63 notch since 01. It keeps my old original rubber looking tops. And that shit right there ^^^^^ that tram said about the original "old" German rubber compared to the "new" stuff is dead nutts true. Ask Neil how sorry he was for sellin me his nos tail light rubber 
I only jizzed on my car once. Right on the steering wheel, right before Tram drove it. 
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JSMskater
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| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Corn Huskers Lotion with glycerin or Bag Balm with lanolin? |
How 'bout some BBQ sauce, mixed with some human 'jiz' and finally spit from the African Green-Stiped Lizard?!?!?!?!?!?! |
You need the de-caff mate.
All Im sayin is my wifes tale vasoline tonic works-and has worked since Ive owned my 63 notch since 01. It keeps my old original rubber looking tops. And that shit right there ^^^^^ that tram said about the original "old" German rubber compared to the "new" stuff is dead nutts true. Ask Neil how sorry he was for sellin me his nos tail light rubber
I only jizzed on my car once. Right on the steering wheel, right before Tram drove it. |
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localboy
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You both get me wrong. I'm not saying the re-pop crap rubber made now is superior to the original German stuff; not at all.
WHAT I AM SAYING is we have better, more modern, better chemically engineered products to care for rubber/vinyl NOW, whether OG/old or new, besides Vasoline or talcum powder. Both belong in the bathroom or nursery; not the garage or shop.
The original NOS stuff has lasted because, in most cases, it never saw ANY U.V. light/soap/polish etc, wasn't installed on an actual car in real world conditions and wasn't messed with in general. The stuff that was is TRASHED like any other ~40 yr old rubber. Take a look at ANY original VW. Hell even the rubber on the '66 Westy is trashed and it was stored INDOORS for over 10 yrs.
Use something DESIGNED for rubber and vinyl. JMO.
And I almost jizzed on my car when I heard the 2.1 liter come to life, so I know what you're refering to.....
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Tram
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| Corn Huskers Lotion with glycerin or Bag Balm with lanolin? |
How 'bout some BBQ sauce, mixed with some human 'jiz' and finally spit from the African Green-Stiped Lizard?!?!?!?!?!?! |
You need the de-caff mate.
All Im sayin is my wifes tale vasoline tonic works-and has worked since Ive owned my 63 notch since 01. It keeps my old original rubber looking tops. And that shit right there ^^^^^ that tram said about the original "old" German rubber compared to the "new" stuff is dead nutts true. Ask Neil how sorry he was for sellin me his nos tail light rubber
I only jizzed on my car once. Right on the steering wheel, right before Tram drove it. |
And you thought I actually believed you when you tried to tell me that was tartar sauce?
Good thing I was wearing hand condoms.
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Russ Wolfe
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Lets get back on topic before I have to get my eraser out again.
NSFW
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notchboy
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| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Lets get back on topic before I have to get my eraser out again.
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I was just going to start in on him too
Mark you know how much my 63s been out and about. Never a trailor queen by any means. Ive left it out lots-atleast half the time Ive owned it. In the weather both here and in Seattle. If anything the paints faded but not the rubber. My guess is that the rubber on my car actualy contains rubber-extracted from a rubber plant. So it like the lavish lube-sometimes vanilla sented I put on it. The new stuff is some plastic vinyl concoction deal that dosnt seem to last. I have a real-cosmoline coated set-front rear early fat trim rubber set Id of thought I would of had to put on this car long ago. But the vasoline keeps it awsome.
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