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GüteAndTite Early Convertible Güru

Joined: June 16, 2005 Posts: 2144 Location: Low So Cal
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Agave58 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2008 Posts: 1190 Location: Central California
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| GüteAndTite wrote: |
| THANKS GUYS! keep the pics and info coming, Im getting this filled in the first post as you add pics and info. starting to fill up. will be nice to have this stickied for future reference |
Hey Brett, Did you find out if the KNECHT's have a date code like the Mann's..  _________________ 1958 Agave Beetle (0\_!_/0)
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Zarzamora Samba Member

Joined: September 07, 2006 Posts: 123 Location: you tube puppetforchrist San Antonio
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing for a 61??  _________________ Only one life, it will soon be past, only what's done for Christ will last. |
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58Dub Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:28 am Post subject: |
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| GüteAndTite wrote: |
| THANKS GUYS! keep the pics and info coming, Im getting this filled in the first post as you add pics and info. starting to fill up. will be nice to have this stickied for future reference |
Hey Brett, Did you find out if the KNECHT's have a date code like the Mann's..  |
I can take a look later today on mine....where is it usually? _________________ 58 Beetle (now just a pile of parts in the corner)
60 Beetle (2221 turbo under construction)
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Agave58 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2008 Posts: 1190 Location: Central California
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:12 am Post subject: |
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I can take a look later today on mine....where is it usually? |
on the Mann's it is on the bottom towards the back.
_________________ 1958 Agave Beetle (0\_!_/0)
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stale air Samba Member

Joined: August 23, 2007 Posts: 5737 Location: Senoia Ga, formerly NorCal
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| 58Dub wrote: |
| Agave58 wrote: |
| GüteAndTite wrote: |
| THANKS GUYS! keep the pics and info coming, Im getting this filled in the first post as you add pics and info. starting to fill up. will be nice to have this stickied for future reference |
Hey Brett, Did you find out if the KNECHT's have a date code like the Mann's..  |
I can take a look later today on mine....where is it usually? |
I just went and checked out my extra KNECHT that I have,and can't find a date on it anywhere. I even took a scotch brite to the underside where the MANN is dated, and got nothing. _________________ WANTED: Henry Veale Santa Rosa plate frames
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58Dub Samba Member

Joined: June 02, 2004 Posts: 1713 Location: Davison, MI
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:01 am Post subject: |
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This is the Mann air cleaner on my 1960 bug with a build date of Feb.23, 1960. The photo does not show the part # very well but I used some chalk to be sure and the number is 113 129 611A. I did find the date stamp on the bottom and it is 01/60. The car is very original so this may well be the original air cleaner. The May 1960 parts list that I looked at does agree with that part number.
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and I believe my 60 was built in Jan. I don't see a date on my KNECHT though _________________ 58 Beetle (now just a pile of parts in the corner)
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Agave58 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2008 Posts: 1190 Location: Central California
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| stale air wrote: |
I just went and checked out my extra KNECHT that I have,and can't find a date on it anywhere. I even took a scotch brite to the underside where the MANN is dated, and got nothing. |
So I guess the Knechts don't have any date stamps? Hey Aaron did you get a chance to look the filter on your 58? _________________ 1958 Agave Beetle (0\_!_/0)
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Harris Samba Member

Joined: June 11, 2004 Posts: 1317 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:00 pm Post subject: Beetle Air Cleaners |
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1962 with breather hose to top side.
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Eric&Barb Samba Member

Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 26291 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Found the VW part number for the mushroom air cleaner in the 1945 parts manual.
1 29 401 _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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61SNRF Samba Member

Joined: March 29, 2009 Posts: 4658 Location: Whittier 90602
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Here is an original EMPI air cleaner accessory to replace the stock oil bath top half on '67-'73 1/2 Beetles.
With this top half you also got a replaceable and more modern gauze type filter element...
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65'1300Deluxe Samba Member

Joined: November 24, 2009 Posts: 584 Location: Auburn, Washington
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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1972 Super Beetle 1600 Dual Port air cleaner with vacuum fittings for thermostatically controlled valve for pre-heat tube flap diaphragm. Also has the driver's side connection for fuel vapor system connecting to charcoal canister under passenger side fender. Connection on passenger's side of fan-housing also goes to charcoal canister.
_________________ 1965 Deluxe Beetle "Camilla"
1972 Super Beetle Barnfind "Roland"
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VWLady Crazy VW Lady

Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3866 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: Beetle Air Cleaners - picture reference thread |
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These are both mentioned as 1962. I've read other places that one is early model year 1962 (August 1961 - March 1962ish) and the other is later 1962 model year (April 1962ish - July 1962ish)?
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janerick3 Samba Member

Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 1903 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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The top air cleaner has the decal for a Zenith-equipped 356 with a replaceable paper "Micro-star" filter element... _________________ Thanks,
Jan K. |
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Helfen Samba Member
Joined: January 19, 2009 Posts: 3483 Location: Vulcania
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:29 am Post subject: |
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i hate to say it but thats an earlier cleaner. is your car from australia or canada? |
No, it's a Jan. 1965 production European Type 111 "A" Sedan--former standard designation that uses the last year a 36 hp engine was used in a beetle. It also uses for the last time a 28 PIC manual choke.
If it were a 1965 Canadian Type 111, 1200 Custom it would have the 36 hp engine with a 28 PCI manual choke carburetor, but would use the same air cleaner with the long snout for the pre heat on the left side and the crankcase hose on the right that all 40 hp engines use.
On some European models a crankcase devise was not required until 1967. |
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marklee Samba Member

Joined: March 24, 2009 Posts: 821 Location: Flintshire, North Wales
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Quick question air filter gurus....will a 69 air filter have any clearance issues with the deck lid on a 66 Beetle?
thanks,
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VWLady Crazy VW Lady

Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3866 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Beetle Air Cleaners - picture reference thread |
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These are both mentioned as 1962. I've read other places that one is early model year 1962 (August 1961 - March 1962ish) and the other is later 1962 model year (April 1962ish - July 1962ish)?
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Late
Does this sound correct? Does the later one go into the 1963 model year? |
Does anyone know how long the smaller hose that runs from the snout to the oil filler for the early 62 air cleaner is? |
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Helfen Samba Member
Joined: January 19, 2009 Posts: 3483 Location: Vulcania
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Beetle Air Cleaners - picture reference thread |
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These are both mentioned as 1962. I've read other places that one is early model year 1962 (August 1961 - March 1962ish) and the other is later 1962 model year (April 1962ish - July 1962ish)?
Early
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Late
Does this sound correct? Does the later one go into the 1963 model year? |
Does anyone know how long the smaller hose that runs from the snout to the oil filler for the early 62 air cleaner is? |
No, but the long hose version is more efficient for getting crankcase vapors out of the engine crankcase. |
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VWLady Crazy VW Lady

Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3866 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: Beetle Air Cleaners - picture reference thread |
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These are both mentioned as 1962. I've read other places that one is early model year 1962 (August 1961 - March 1962ish) and the other is later 1962 model year (April 1962ish - July 1962ish)?
Early
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Late
Does this sound correct? Does the later one go into the 1963 model year? |
Does anyone know how long the smaller hose that runs from the snout to the oil filler for the early 62 air cleaner is? |
OK, referenced Progressive Refinements. The hose did indeed change location from the intake to the reservoir, February 20, 1962 chassis 905991 and engine # 6519664 for the type 1 and about the same time for the Ghia.
Now that's settled. |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member

Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 26291 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| marklee wrote: |
| Quick question air filter gurus....will a 69 air filter have any clearance issues with the deck lid on a 66 Beetle? |
Only if you want to close the engine lid!
Get a 1966 air cleaner or the 1966 style air cleaner with the post 1967 preheat tube as seen on page one for the post-1968 engines in pre-1967 Beetles. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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