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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 71603 Location: Phoenix 602
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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Wow, that is a super bad paint job, I bet it's scary under that paint.
Is it a real '66 slider that's been abused over years? I'm honestly not sure.
I think it's a South American "restoration" that has come to the USA
What I am sure of: The M-Code plate has 100% been reproduced, probably without knowledge of what exactly should be on there.
Wrong fonts, looks like wrong shape, month/day on first row don't match the VIN #
His plate:
04 0?
Is that supposed to be 04 O?
O meaning October, not a zero
VIN # 6165420 is from June 1966 so maybe it could be 04 6 on the original M-code plate but not 04 0
A 1966 Kombi wouldn't say BLUE either, only earlier Buses said that.
A '66 Dove Blue Kombi would be 404083 for the paint/upholstery codes on the plate.
Another 1966 Kombi M-code plate example
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55bundt Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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Fat hatch walkthrough so its german but that slider door looks sketchy.. |
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 71603 Location: Phoenix 602
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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Yes, I wouldn't assume the entire slider door hasn't been hacked in.
Sliding Door Kombi is sort of unusual if it's legit, the surviving sliding doors mostly seem to be 21-Windows for 1966-67.
Maybe all the Kombis just got lost to usage over the years vs. Deluxes though. _________________ How to Post Photos
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thom Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2000 Posts: 6199 Location: Sacramento
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:16 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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Had to save off some of these gems
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pondoras box Samba Member

Joined: March 22, 2004 Posts: 1673 Location: Eerie PA
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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If that is a legit slider what a shame to do that Brazilian sky light / sunroof hack. At least call Grumpy’s and get an original looking roof. _________________ Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.
1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda). https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=563183
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thom Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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Looks like this hackasaurus rex didn't meet reserve at $19,500 _________________ -Thom
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1957 Porsche 356A Sunroof
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1957 Mercedes Westfalia single cab
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ryans65 Samba Member

Joined: February 16, 2016 Posts: 1345 Location: Yulee FL
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:56 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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No heat tube or holes in the top hats, usually a good indicator of a Brazilian! |
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thom Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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ryans65 wrote: |
No heat tube or holes in the top hats, usually a good indicator of a Brazilian! |
Yes, and the 3rd-world bodywork hackage. The more you look at the pix, the worse it gets. _________________ -Thom
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Clara  Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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thom wrote: |
ryans65 wrote: |
No heat tube or holes in the top hats, usually a good indicator of a Brazilian! |
Yes, and the 3rd-world bodywork hackage. The more you look at the pix, the worse it gets. |
I looked through some pics...the w/t bulkhead looks a bit weird. Also no spare tire location in back... I think it was a non w/t originally.
definitely some hackage in this package.
I'm not thinking it's Brazilian though... think it was a sliding door kombi with safaris... _________________ The Obsolete Air-Cooled Documentation Project http://oacdp.org/ |
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Malokin Martin Samba Member

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von_hansel  Samba Member

Joined: June 12, 2006 Posts: 815 Location: Inland Empire
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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Real Talk- what's worse? People labeling new Chinese parts as NOS or someone intentionally photographing used parts on top of an NOS box to give off the impression that the part (in this case almost 160 ads of parts) is NOS?
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BarryL  Samba Member

Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 15271 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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Gabe is a straight up guy. If he says it's NOS it is. It looks correct in all ways and the key. |
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von_hansel  Samba Member

Joined: June 12, 2006 Posts: 815 Location: Inland Empire
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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BarryL wrote: |
Gabe is a straight up guy. If he says it's NOS it is. It looks correct in all ways and the key. |
I've done business with Gabe and he is a nice guy. However, The problem is, the handle is not NOS. If it was NOS, Gabe would let you know in the ad that the part is NOS. He uses NOS boxes in his ads and lays used parts on top of the box and doesn't tell you that the part is used, which is the rub.
I wasn't complaining about the part, even though his price for the handle is on the high side. _________________
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BarryL  Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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I see what you're saying. Sorry. I guess he would a' said NOS plus the numbers on the box don't match. |
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 71603 Location: Phoenix 602
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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I agree it could be confusing and I wonder if anyone has expected NOS even though NOS appears nowhere in the text.
It's skirting the line between the "buyer should knw what they are buying" and "Seller showed something in the ad that was not clear" so...
It's best to avoid any sort of confusion by not doing things like that. _________________ How to Post Photos
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BarryL  Samba Member

Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 15271 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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Looks like that same box is used in a plethora of Gabe's ads.
He lives fairly close to me. Next time I see him I'll give him a thrashing. |
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thom Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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I had a bunch of boxes leftover from NOS parts I'd used, that I'd considered selling, but ended up just tossing them because I knew they'd end up being props, or re-purposed to package repro parts. _________________ -Thom
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Clara  Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2025 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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BarryL wrote: |
Looks like that same box is used in a plethora of Gabe's ads.
He lives fairly close to me. Next time I see him I'll give him a thrashing. |
Would you say he has a plethora? _________________ The Obsolete Air-Cooled Documentation Project http://oacdp.org/ |
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BarryL  Samba Member

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Clara  Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2025 9:41 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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Link
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