356 brakes - 52 Barndoor

[Terry Gaudet]

Hey there,

Looking to put either A or B brakes on my ride. I have both in stock and ready to go.

My bus has a later style custom narrowed 55-63 front beam which is ok.

The rear trans is a T-1 62-65 style with short axles and bolts right in. I was going to use later model T-3 backing plates and early T-3 drums with 5/8" machined off the snout, but 356 brakes will be the goal.

I know the rear will be easy bolt on, but can I get some sort of bearing or sleeve to mount up the drums?
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Terry Gaudet

1950 Beetle Standard
1955 Canadian Custom
1956 Kombi w/SO23 kit
1965 Kombi walkthrough
1965 Double Cab

[western auto]

10 foot doug has the answers you seek....

[Mr. OGPaint]

I have 356B brakes front and rear on my 53 Kombi with T-1 shortaxles. What wheels are you planning to run? These huge brakes together with flat rear wheel wells have made installing rear tires/wheels more difficult than on any lowered bus I’ve ever had.
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Patrick Hall

[Terry Gaudet]

I will be running original 356 steel wheels as well as a 356 S-90 motor.

Guess i'll contact 10-foot Doug....;0)
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Terry Gaudet

1950 Beetle Standard
1955 Canadian Custom
1956 Kombi w/SO23 kit
1965 Kombi walkthrough
1965 Double Cab

[Terry Gaudet]

Tried searching for contact info on 10 ft Doug and wasn't able to. Anyone out there who has this, please message me details. Thank you so much.
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Terry Gaudet

1950 Beetle Standard
1955 Canadian Custom
1956 Kombi w/SO23 kit
1965 Kombi walkthrough
1965 Double Cab

[PeteSC]

I think the user below is "10 foot Doug":

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=66603

His BD w/ 356 brakes:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BP4A0mKBU8X/

[Mr. OGPaint]

Should work easily well with your stock wheels. Doug did an article in Hot VWs regarding his brake install on stock BD running gear
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Patrick Hall

[Terry Gaudet]

I have read the article, but it seems that my later split bus front beam might cause some issues. The backing plate won't bolt on and the bearings are not compatible.

Sent a message to Doug, waiting for a reply.
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Terry Gaudet

1950 Beetle Standard
1955 Canadian Custom
1956 Kombi w/SO23 kit
1965 Kombi walkthrough
1965 Double Cab

[EmpiGT]

The split bus spindles make it harder. I tried. You have to find just the right bearings and races to do it. I have them in my garage somewhere from the attempt. And then you have to run a spacer/ adapter between the backing plate and spindle surface for the backing plate to mount. The far easiest way is to build a barndoor beam and run kingpin beetle spindles(they fit with machine work or spacers made). Then the front brakes and stock beetle bearings are a direct bolt on.

[Terry Gaudet]

Thanks EmpiGT. I will give that a try.
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Terry Gaudet

1950 Beetle Standard
1955 Canadian Custom
1956 Kombi w/SO23 kit
1965 Kombi walkthrough
1965 Double Cab

[djfordmanjack]

beetle spindles on BD beam will work, but will drop the front A LOT ! like 4 - 6" or more. IIRC.
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[EmpiGT]

See this thread on installing beetle spindles. It narrows the track some and lowers it about 4 inches. To me looks really good. You can narrow the beam some more and adjusters to go really low.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=370963&highlight=beetle+spindles

[djfordmanjack]

Awesome ! Had almost forgotten about that great old thread !
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Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !
52 Barndoor DLX Coachbuild project
54 Oval project
55 Wolfsburg panel project, og paint Taubenblau L31
62 Dickholmer, Seeblau L360
63 1500 Notch, og paint Rubin Rot L456
67 1500 Käfer, og paint Lotus weiß L282 w/red interior

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