1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct!

[RockStock]

It also has the pre55 curved top oil cooler
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[EverettB]

Oil filler with the removable cap but a strap air cleaner? Weird...

I wonder if that's a square regulator too but it's hard for me to tell for sure from that image.

The early boxier heater boxes are into 1957 sometime.
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[Dan22]

1956 or later due to the oil fill. The heater boxes would define it too since they changed design sometime late 50s.
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[RockStock]

If it’s part #35 in the exploded diagram above, the main difference is probably the number of captive nuts/holes on the rear top. 2 or 3. Early is 3, late is 2 (but may also be different, lhs sled to rhs sled, I can’t remember)

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Pinpoint the engine date!

Colourised

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[1957_SC]

Anyone know if there is anything unique to the Heater box tin, no the box itself, but rather the "Sled" that runs under the pushrod tubes with the flap?


Looking for one for an early 55 (jan) engine, and not sure if I am looking for something specifc.

Thanks

[janerick3]

I think the confusion comes from the 356 community, where the purists are much more anal.

356/912 fan shrouds, which are no more than modified VW stampings, are held in place by 2 hex bolts on the ends. I have never seen an original 36 or 40hp VW engine with anything other than cheese head screws holding the fan shroud in place.
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[bnam]

You’re right it seems to have been superseded only sometime after 67 with 2 hex bolts.

The fan cover screws seem to have been hex bolts throughout.
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[RockStock]

One example. Jan 55 bus engine.

1954 Bus Parts Manual
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[EverettB]

Wow, excellent summary and really nice photos of what you found.

I did not know the generator commutator had a date code.

Are you asking if the cylinder tin should be 3-hole?
Yes.
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[B_vdd]

Some date codes I saw while building a july 54 industrial engine. The matching engine was once replaced by a '59. Starter motor still the original one. The industrial engine had period correct date codes ( if I may believe this topic) and suits my 15july 54 very well. ( wheels are 7/54 , speedo 6/54)

1 clips from the distributor is not correct. Boxes are 3 holes but didn't find the older style cylinder tin. And maybe there's more stuff ?

[iThing]

[tasb]

I should have been more specific, sorry. I was referencing the distributor badge shown on page one of this topic.
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[RockStock]

A very original February 1955 36hp engine in a very original Swedish Oval
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Bar maybe a uterus manifold and a lead boot…I can’t fault it
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[Dan22]

It looks like his dist tag is like this one. Mine is that style too, which is date code 5L.

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[tasb]

The badge on the distributor is a reproduction. You might want to check the distributor body stamp to make sure it really is a BR3.
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[Tempie]

Yes, clamps are original.

Must honestly say, the sticker on air cleaner was not there when I found the car
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[RockStock]

Sticker on the filter too

This is supposedly a very original 1955 engine
Month unknown

Have you have a lot of the fixings blackened?
Screws like the regulator mounting screws, fuel pump cap screws, carb screws/bolts?

Another pretty original 55 engine from p10:

[Tempie]