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1957_SC Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! |
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Anyone know if there is anything unique to the Heater box tin, no the box itself, but rather the "Sled" that runs under the pushrod tubes with the flap?
Looking for one for an early 55 (jan) engine, and not sure if I am looking for something specifc.
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janerick3 Samba Member

Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 1892 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:28 am Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! |
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I think the confusion comes from the 356 community, where the purists are much more anal.
356/912 fan shrouds, which are no more than modified VW stampings, are held in place by 2 hex bolts on the ends. I have never seen an original 36 or 40hp VW engine with anything other than cheese head screws holding the fan shroud in place. _________________ Thanks,
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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 3383 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! |
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You’re right it seems to have been superseded only sometime after 67 with 2 hex bolts.
The fan cover screws seem to have been hex bolts throughout. _________________ 1971 1302LS Convertible (RHD) owned since '74
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RockStock Samba Member

Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 4111 Location: England
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! |
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One example. Jan 55 bus engine.
1954 Bus Parts Manual
#45
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bnam Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2006 Posts: 3383 Location: El Dorado Hills CA/ Bangalore, India
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Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:38 am Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! |
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RockStock wrote: |
sgellis wrote: |
Was the fastener on end of fan shroud a flat head or hex head? |
Should be a cheese head screw, not the hex head. |
The parts manual says different - N 10 212 3, bolt, hex head 6x12.
Byas _________________ 1971 1302LS Convertible (RHD) owned since '74
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B_vdd Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2021 Posts: 4 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:54 am Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! |
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EverettB wrote: |
Are you asking if the cylinder tin should be 3-hole?
Yes.
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Yes those with the different pressing. |
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 70931 Location: Phoenix 602
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B_vdd Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2021 Posts: 4 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:54 am Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! |
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Some date codes I saw while building a july 54 industrial engine. The matching engine was once replaced by a '59. Starter motor still the original one. The industrial engine had period correct date codes ( if I may believe this topic) and suits my 15july 54 very well. ( wheels are 7/54 , speedo 6/54)
1 clips from the distributor is not correct. Boxes are 3 holes but didn't find the older style cylinder tin. And maybe there's more stuff ?
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iThing Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2012 Posts: 17 Location: Oshkosh WI
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53 0val wrote: |
RareAir wrote: |
Luftsick Tero wrote: |
When did the generator nut change to smaller one?
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Generator nut went to 21mm size in 1956 |
The real question is: What color were they painted? :D |
Look! A squirrel! _________________ Therefore, I am. |
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tasb  The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6515 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! |
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I should have been more specific, sorry. I was referencing the distributor badge shown on page one of this topic. _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
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RockStock Samba Member

Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 4111 Location: England
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! |
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A very original February 1955 36hp engine in a very original Swedish Oval
1-0983220
Bar maybe a uterus manifold and a lead boot…I can’t fault it
Lovely _________________ -StockRocks- |
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Dan22 Samba Member

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tasb  The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6515 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! |
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The badge on the distributor is a reproduction. You might want to check the distributor body stamp to make sure it really is a BR3. _________________ Roads Scholar &
1957 Kombi low mileage 36 hp governor equipped M 178 Slow Drag Winner 2014, 2015, 2018
1965 hardtop Deluxe Microbus owned since 1990 M 620 factory 12 v 1500cc
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Tempie Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2004 Posts: 320 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! |
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Yes, clamps are original.
Must honestly say, the sticker on air cleaner was not there when I found the car _________________ When a deluxe is not enough.... you go standard
Early 55 standard sunroof
Visit the Standard Split and Oval Beetle group!!
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RockStock Samba Member

Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 4111 Location: England
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! |
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Sticker on the filter too
This is supposedly a very original 1955 engine
Month unknown
Have you have a lot of the fixings blackened?
Screws like the regulator mounting screws, fuel pump cap screws, carb screws/bolts?
Another pretty original 55 engine from p10:
Tempie wrote: |
Clamps are screw types... |
Original to the engine as far as you know? _________________ -StockRocks-
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Tempie Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2004 Posts: 320 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! |
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RockStock wrote: |
Good effort!
The 2 lhs regulator screws should be fitted from underneath
Your lead pipe clamps…are they the weldnut type? Or screw type? |
Thx for the tip. Regulator was all that was missing
Clamps are screw types... _________________ When a deluxe is not enough.... you go standard
Early 55 standard sunroof
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RockStock Samba Member

Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 4111 Location: England
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! |
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Good effort!
The 2 lhs regulator screws should be fitted from underneath
Your lead pipe clamps…are they the weldnut type? Or screw type? _________________ -StockRocks- |
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Tempie Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2004 Posts: 320 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! |
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Here is my jan55 engine.
It was all original except the regulator. It has the early MANN filter.
Wiring needs to be finalized.
Please put your remarks
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bwaz Samba Member

Joined: August 24, 2004 Posts: 1809
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Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
Here some 54/55 fuel pump serial numbers for reference.
These are all loose pumps so I don't know what month/year engines they were removed from.
938716 - Screw
999870 - Screw
1300635 - Screw
1304024 - Screw
1311009 - Screw
1578179 - No Screw
1659613 - No Screw |
I’ve just picked up a no screw fuel pump with number
1711392 - no screw (so must be late in the run of no screw versions) |
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 70931 Location: Phoenix 602
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