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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

Anyone know if there is anything unique to the Heater box tin, no the box itself, but rather the "Sled" that runs under the pushrod tubes with the flap?


Looking for one for an early 55 (jan) engine, and not sure if I am looking for something specifc.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:28 am    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

I think the confusion comes from the 356 community, where the purists are much more anal.

356/912 fan shrouds, which are no more than modified VW stampings, are held in place by 2 hex bolts on the ends. I have never seen an original 36 or 40hp VW engine with anything other than cheese head screws holding the fan shroud in place.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

You’re right it seems to have been superseded only sometime after 67 with 2 hex bolts.

The fan cover screws seem to have been hex bolts throughout.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

One example. Jan 55 bus engine.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:38 am    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

RockStock wrote:
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Was the fastener on end of fan shroud a flat head or hex head?

Should be a cheese head screw, not the hex head.


The parts manual says different - N 10 212 3, bolt, hex head 6x12.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2024 12:54 am    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:


Are you asking if the cylinder tin should be 3-hole?
Yes.



Yes those with the different pressing.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

Wow, excellent summary and really nice photos of what you found.

I did not know the generator commutator had a date code.

Are you asking if the cylinder tin should be 3-hole?
Yes.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:54 am    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

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Some date codes I saw while building a july 54 industrial engine. The matching engine was once replaced by a '59. Starter motor still the original one. The industrial engine had period correct date codes ( if I may believe this topic) and suits my 15july 54 very well. ( wheels are 7/54 , speedo 6/54)

1 clips from the distributor is not correct. Boxes are 3 holes but didn't find the older style cylinder tin. And maybe there's more stuff ?



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

53 0val wrote:
RareAir wrote:
Luftsick Tero wrote:
When did the generator nut change to smaller one?


Generator nut went to 21mm size in 1956


The real question is: What color were they painted? :D


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

I should have been more specific, sorry. I was referencing the distributor badge shown on page one of this topic.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

A very original February 1955 36hp engine in a very original Swedish Oval
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Bar maybe a uterus manifold and a lead boot…I can’t fault it
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

It looks like his dist tag is like this one. Mine is that style too, which is date code 5L.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

The badge on the distributor is a reproduction. You might want to check the distributor body stamp to make sure it really is a BR3.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

Yes, clamps are original.

Must honestly say, the sticker on air cleaner was not there when I found the car
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

Sticker on the filter too

This is supposedly a very original 1955 engine
Month unknown

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Have you have a lot of the fixings blackened?
Screws like the regulator mounting screws, fuel pump cap screws, carb screws/bolts?

Another pretty original 55 engine from p10:

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Clamps are screw types...

Original to the engine as far as you know?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

RockStock wrote:
Good effort!
The 2 lhs regulator screws should be fitted from underneath

Your lead pipe clamps…are they the weldnut type? Or screw type?


Thx for the tip. Regulator was all that was missing Smile
Clamps are screw types...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

Good effort!
The 2 lhs regulator screws should be fitted from underneath

Your lead pipe clamps…are they the weldnut type? Or screw type?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:20 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

Here is my jan55 engine.
It was all original except the regulator. It has the early MANN filter.
Wiring needs to be finalized.

Please put your remarks

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:
Here some 54/55 fuel pump serial numbers for reference.

These are all loose pumps so I don't know what month/year engines they were removed from.

938716 - Screw
999870 - Screw
1300635 - Screw
1304024 - Screw
1311009 - Screw
1578179 - No Screw
1659613 - No Screw


I’ve just picked up a no screw fuel pump with number
1711392 - no screw (so must be late in the run of no screw versions)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: 1954 & 1955 engines whats not correct! Reply with quote

Weird but very cool.

I guess they had the numbers backwards?
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