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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Engine Identification Reply with quote

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This will help in Engine Identification for those who wonder.
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millerje78 wrote:
I'm no expert but I'm guessing the spike during cold running has everything to do with the roofing tar(20-50) in the crankcase.

bill may wrote:
...i could be wrong as i have only been driving air cooled beetles since august 1965.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.type2.com/bartnik/enginecodes.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.type2.com/bartnik/enginecodes.htm


Dang, I like that chart
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I'm no expert but I'm guessing the spike during cold running has everything to do with the roofing tar(20-50) in the crankcase.

bill may wrote:
...i could be wrong as i have only been driving air cooled beetles since august 1965.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For completists, how about this one?

http://home.planet.nl/~koni1691/ecodes.html
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:01 am    Post subject: Re: Engine Identification Reply with quote

70fback wrote:
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This will help in Engine Identification for those who wonder.


This chart has several errors in the engine prefixes; there are better references out there.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For bugs, you might find my list more useful. It matches chassis numbers to the engine numbers for all models between 46 and 86 when they stopped making them in Germany (anyone got a list of chassis and engine numbers for Sth American manufactured bugs?)

http://www.vw-resource.com/years.html

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello new here....
just pried my great grandmothers beetle out of my dads hands.
it has been in the garage for 23yrs. 37000 original miles.
it is 100% original.
having problems matching up the #'s chassis #1773805 says its a '57
motor # 2156366 says '58
what is the big #s stamp under the data plate? 150806
thnx for any of your help.
plans are for a TOTAL RESTO and give it back to dad for fathers day next yr
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The engine and chassis numbers are both model year 1958. Looks like the chassis was from the very end of Decmber 1957, and the engine was made at the very start of Jan 1958. That body number, I'm not very knowledgable of how those worked as far as how long they sat around after being stamped before the were mated to a pan - on the VIN chart it looks like the body was stamped closer to the start of December 1957. There's also a number stamped into the right bump stop support on the front axle beam, as well as on the transaxle you can look those numbers up too:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php

With only 37K on it, you better restore it original! Get some pictures posted up here so you can show us your progress. Good luck, and welcome theSamba!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it WILL be done original.
thnx for the help.
will post pics. just want to make sure i post them in the right section...
each forum have there own rules..ya know..
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a quick question... Where can I find out if the engine case in the car is correct with the body and pan number... I have an original paint 1963 Beryl green beetle. The case number is 7443322...the body number is 5272855. I know that the motor is from a 63 but I am new to this whole deciphering numbers and stuff because I used to never care. This beetle I am actually kind of interested in. Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Go here, keep in mind the numbers for the month are the LAST ID numbers for the month, not the first.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I see this has been pegged in the "Sticky" FAQ index, I'll put in the Engine Data Chart I drew up, plus the Worldwide Engines Chart that I compiled from many different sources. Originally it was an appendix in the back of "The VW Beetle, A Collector's Guide" by Jonathan Wood, a British book. I took that chart, re-arranged it and added quite a bit more data to it. The large chart may be re-sized on your screen and will look better if you click-to-enlarge it.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:57 pm    Post subject: still need a lil help... Reply with quote

im tryng to find the info on this block im trying to build up!!!! if i got it right its a 1700??? uummm 1776? do the other numbers mean anything? please any info would be great! here's the block number:
#CB06 2471 THANKS GUYS
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Type 2 camper engine

CB 1972/73 1700cc - dual carb., manual transmission
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karmann_65 wrote:
Type 2 camper engine

CB 1972/73 1700cc - dual carb., manual transmission

i got that on one of the charts just thought there would be a little more detail... i just never really heard of a 1700... ive always heard 1776..
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1700cc is a stock VW engine size.

1776cc is a modified 1600 most likely
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karmann_65 wrote:
1700cc is a stock VW engine size.

1776cc is a modified 1600 most likely

interesting! i have a 1650 now and found a 1700cc block with pistons, would it be better to just pump up my 1650?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The charts shown and this thread is centered around type 1 engines. The CB engine is a type 4-Bus, and never was in a Beetle.

You'll find the 1679cc CB engine listed on the Type 2 VIN page under 1971,1972, 1973.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/chassisdating.php
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

glutamodo wrote:
The charts shown and this thread is centered around type 1 engines. The CB engine is a type 4-Bus, and never was in a Beetle.

You'll find the 1679cc CB engine listed on the Type 2 VIN page under 1971,1972, 1973.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/chassisdating.php

thanks that cleared up alot! would it be a good idea or would this fit in a 58 bug, straight bolt on! i just want to kick some ass with a stronger engine and was thinking this would be a good way!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this was the chart i was looking at? http://www.type2.com/bartnik/enginecodes.htm
it says type 2?
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