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I am starting this post as a reference for 50-67 air cleaners and associated parts. Feel free to add to it.
Other Forum threads of similar interest:
Beetle Air Cleaners
Karmann Ghia 40hp air cleaners
'50-'52 used the "T" air cleaner
'53 used the "strap" air cleaner. The 1953 air cleaner is open at the top:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=64146
(seen on left)
There is also another air cleaner, exact usage unknown, that is similar in design but has a wing-nut on top of the air cleaner instead of a strap.
<picture needed>
The open top design was corrected for 54-55 Barndoors by extending the lip outward:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=64146
(Seen on right)
52-54 Barndoor trucks used the following 2-piece air cleaner:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=632950
55-56 36hp Buses had a wing nut on the bottom of the air cleaner. This was used until Chassis # 203163 in Sept. 1956.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=215194
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=12468
Wing-nut to spin-on design change date from Progressive Refinements:
57-59 Buses use the following air cleaner:
Bottom change:
'60 Bastard engine air cleaner:
Part # 261 129 611B
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=909887
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=909886
More
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=909889
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=909888
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=909893
Beginning in June, 1960, chassis # 614456:
Part # 261 129 611C
'60-'63 40hp air cleaners used the air cleaners seen on the right in this photo:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=265740
and
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=430086
Part # 211 129 611A
and
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=430088
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=430087
NOS air cleaner with decal, part # 261 129 613C:
There were several minor design changes that included the addition of a vent hose connection as well as a pre-heat connection.
The style above with a pre-heat connection but no breather has part # 211 129 611D
Example:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=1023262
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=1023261
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=1023260
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=1023259
'63/Early '64 1500cc engines used a left-mounted air cleaner with a unique left-side carburetor elbow as well as an oil bath section with the breather hose on the right side instead of the left (as seen below in the 64-67 section)
Part # 211 129 613
Left-side elbow:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=420317
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=420318
Right-side breather connection:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=430089
Left-side mount:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=430090
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=1023258
Oil bowl photos:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=1023257
'64-'67 1500cc engines used this air cleaner, mounted on the right side of the engine compartment
Part # 211 129 613B
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=232555
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=252171
Other parts and points of interest
Eberspacher mount for mounting an Eberspacher gas heater on the left side of the engine compartment and moving the air cleaner to the right side:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=238273
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=235451
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=235449
40hp Fresh-air air cleaner mounting triangles
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=400776
36hp engines used similar triangles but without the cut-out seen for the fresh-air heater tubes.
(seen on right side)
All 36hp and 40hp engines used the above triangle in conjunction with this mounting bracket that mounted to the rear of the fan shroud
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=215192
Heavy duty oil bath air cleaner and mount
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=293883
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=354120
Dual air cleaner for dusty regions - 113 129 612 and 113 129 611D
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=1163294
'64-'65 Buses where the air cleaner was on the right but the pre-heat connection was on the left use a special clamp to hold the pre-heat hose in place
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=430091
Date stamps:
Air cleaners are often date-stamped. Sometimes in the underside of the bowl, sometimes near the air intake.
One example from an 11/55 36hp air cleaner is below.
Location: Underside of air cleaner top, seen by removing the bowl as if changing the oil
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Nice now I can tell which ones I have.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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i have owned a couple wing nut air cleaners that have concentric circles on the bottom, as opposed to radial lines. i do not have any pics, i am sure someone does.
anyone know the reason or date that would explain the difference? |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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| hazetguy wrote: |
i have owned a couple wing nut air cleaners that have concentric circles on the bottom, as opposed to radial lines. i do not have any pics, i am sure someone does.
anyone know the reason or date that would explain the difference? |
I've seen those as well and I think they are Barndoor, maybe 1953?
I have both a 29A and a 261 air cleaner and they appear identical to the above except for the part #.
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This should be sticked !
very good information that heavy duty looks like a thing oil bath mount holder
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dusty conditions/cyclone filter
i'm sure RickC has more pics/info of this set up. |
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| hazetguy wrote: |
dusty conditions/cyclone filter
i'm sure RickC has more pics/info of this set up. |
Whats with the 1500 sp and the 36hp fan shroud? |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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| hazetguy wrote: |
i have owned a couple wing nut air cleaners that have concentric circles on the bottom, as opposed to radial lines. i do not have any pics, i am sure someone does.
anyone know the reason or date that would explain the difference? |
I have one very similar to the wingnut style, but without the wingnut. The base screws into the top, and has bumps on the interiror which lock onto matching grooves on the top. As you tighten it up, the bump to groove matching gets tighter and tighter until it is secure. I assume it is a late '50's item, and I show it here mounted on my '59 swivelseat engine. Very convenient, but it has no breather intake, which would be nice.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus air cleaners |
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| j.pickens wrote: |
| hazetguy wrote: |
i have owned a couple wing nut air cleaners that have concentric circles on the bottom, as opposed to radial lines. i do not have any pics, i am sure someone does.
anyone know the reason or date that would explain the difference? |
I have one very similar to the wingnut style, but without the wingnut. The base screws into the top, and has bumps on the interiror which lock onto matching grooves on the top. As you tighten it up, the bump to groove matching gets tighter and tighter until it is secure. I assume it is a late '50's item, and I show it here mounted on my '59 swivelseat engine. Very convenient, but it has no breather intake, which would be nice.
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That looks like a normal 36hp air cleaner. I wonder if the engine breaths enough through it? |
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| hazetguy wrote: |
dusty conditions/cyclone filter
i'm sure RickC has more pics/info of this set up. |
Whats with the 1500 sp and the 36hp fan shroud? |
it's a stale air 40hp shroud. the engine is a later engine, tinned up to look like a '61 stale 40. surely you have seen this bus in person by now and have talked to rick about it, no?
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| campingbox wrote: |
That looks like a normal 36hp air cleaner. I wonder if the engine breaths enough through it? |
I know it looks restrictive, but it is open around the circmference, and I calculated the open area. Turns out to be bigger than the nozzle opening on the '64-'67 style. Seems to work just fine with my single port 1600. I have the small exhaust exit as well. I guess it could be constipated, but it runs great. Drove it with this setup to Bullibrigade and back in record time this year.
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| hazetguy wrote: |
dusty conditions/cyclone filter
i'm sure RickC has more pics/info of this set up. |
Whats with the 1500 sp and the 36hp fan shroud? |
it's a stale air 40hp shroud. the engine is a later engine, tinned up to look like a '61 stale 40. surely you have seen this bus in person by now and have talked to rick about it, no? |
Me thinks Greggy be yanking your chain...
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I've got a '56 Kombi Wolfsburg (Feb. '56). Should I be looking for a wingnut air cleaner?
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i think there is also a wing nut air cleaner that seperates the tube from the elbow and is the same in all other aspects.dropgates has a good picture of it.
i need a complete wing nut that seperates for my truck if anyone has one...
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| hazetguy wrote: |
dusty conditions/cyclone filter
i'm sure RickC has more pics/info of this set up. |
That one is sweet. The whole setup is just impressive. I like the cutout under the filter section that lets the dust collected fall out of the engine compartment and onto the road. I'd like to put something under there so I can see how much dust it really collects. It's just like the cyclone dust collector in my cabinet shop, only about 40 times smaller  |
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This came with my bus and is original. It isn't a cyclone but it is for dusty areas. I am keeping it for the 1600 dp.
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| gatorwyatt wrote: |
i think there is also a wing nut air cleaner that seperates the tube from the elbow and is the same in all other aspects.dropgates has a good picture of it.
i need a complete wing nut that seperates for my truck if anyone has one... |
I believe that is for the super early trucks, like 1952 only.
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