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Erik G
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| notchboy wrote: |
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I like it. I appreciate it. I just do not see it at 62K. One important little detail which I see missing is the mileag, whether matching numbers, etc. And pictures of the usual rust locations.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2675311
I would personally value it at 45K. But that is me.
Ah well. It may be worth that, but not to me. |
45k is still a lot for a white notchback, non-sunroof. They just don't have the pull and the market is horrible now so at 62k is serious pie in the sky. Lots of little things wrong to be considered "restored" to me in the truest - like it was in 62.
But it is very clean, well maintained from what we can see and is a very nice example for sure. If he gets an offer for 35k, he should take it. But I doubt it will cover that laundry list of work he spouted off having been done to it by outside sources and no sweat equity. |
High 20's on a good day - Way too many people way overestimate on these notchbacks thinking they are rare...
just my opinion of course |
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notchboy
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| Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:17 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| Erik G wrote: |
| notchboy wrote: |
| Ossipon wrote: |
I like it. I appreciate it. I just do not see it at 62K. One important little detail which I see missing is the mileag, whether matching numbers, etc. And pictures of the usual rust locations.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2675311
I would personally value it at 45K. But that is me.
Ah well. It may be worth that, but not to me. |
45k is still a lot for a white notchback, non-sunroof. They just don't have the pull and the market is horrible now so at 62k is serious pie in the sky. Lots of little things wrong to be considered "restored" to me in the truest - like it was in 62.
But it is very clean, well maintained from what we can see and is a very nice example for sure. If he gets an offer for 35k, he should take it. But I doubt it will cover that laundry list of work he spouted off having been done to it by outside sources and no sweat equity. |
High 20's on a good day - Way too many people way overestimate on these notchbacks thinking they are rare...
just my opinion of course |
Exactly, they are "rare"  
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squaretobehip
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| Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:09 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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$62K is way too high for it having some incorrect bits...and just high in general. These cars just don't pull that much right now, unfortunately.
No one has bit on mine...yet.
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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A white 65 Notch sold for somewhere in the $30k range on BAT recently and a gulf blue 63 I think sold for around $41k not too long ago. The Samba is not the place to find top dollar for pretty much any nicely done car. Too many VW people on it  .
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Gadberry
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| Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| Referring to the black 1964 notchback, is it possible to use a single side draft carb on a 1776? |
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| Referring to the black 1964 notchback, is it possible to use a single side draft carb on a 1776? |
I’m doing it on mine. I’ve run single 34 PICT carbs on a 1776 and 1800 on type 1 engines.
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notchboy
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ALLWAGONS
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| Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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I guess notchbacks are still a thing. The other squareback similar to mine hasn't sold for the $45K asking price. I agree, unrestored beauties are awesome, but eventually, they will have to be refurbished. this is when a restored car makes more sense money wise. I wonder what the price for the Ruby red Beauty Josephine was?
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squaretobehip
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| Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| ALLWAGONS wrote: |
| I guess notchbacks are still a thing. |
Real Type 3 peeps know Squarebacks are the best!
I would trade my Notchback for another early Squareback (+cash depending on the car... ) in a heartbeat.
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EasternNotch
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| Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:11 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| ALLWAGONS wrote: |
| I guess notchbacks are still a thing. |
Real Type 3 peeps know Squarebacks are the best!
I would trade my Notchback for another early Squareback (+cash depending on the car... ) in a heartbeat. |
What? gotta have at least one of each type 3 
Now to find a late sunroof automatic Notch
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EverettB 
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| Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:01 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| notchboy wrote: |
| Erik G wrote: |
| notchboy wrote: |
| Ossipon wrote: |
I like it. I appreciate it. I just do not see it at 62K. One important little detail which I see missing is the mileag, whether matching numbers, etc. And pictures of the usual rust locations.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2675311
I would personally value it at 45K. But that is me.
Ah well. It may be worth that, but not to me. |
45k is still a lot for a white notchback, non-sunroof. They just don't have the pull and the market is horrible now so at 62k is serious pie in the sky. Lots of little things wrong to be considered "restored" to me in the truest - like it was in 62.
But it is very clean, well maintained from what we can see and is a very nice example for sure. If he gets an offer for 35k, he should take it. But I doubt it will cover that laundry list of work he spouted off having been done to it by outside sources and no sweat equity. |
High 20's on a good day - Way too many people way overestimate on these notchbacks thinking they are rare...
just my opinion of course |
Exactly, they are "rare" |
Ad is inactive now so maybe pending sale?
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ALLWAGONS
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| Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| EasternNotch wrote: |
| squaretobehip wrote: |
| ALLWAGONS wrote: |
| I guess notchbacks are still a thing. |
Real Type 3 peeps know Squarebacks are the best!
I would trade my Notchback for another early Squareback (+cash depending on the car... ) in a heartbeat. |
What? gotta have at least one of each type 3
Now to find a late sunroof automatic Notch
-Lucas |
What about this beauty? this is rare!
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2675685
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I recycle old cars and parts, other than when I rot, that's as Green as I am going to get.
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notchboy
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| Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| EverettB wrote: |
| notchboy wrote: |
| Erik G wrote: |
| notchboy wrote: |
| Ossipon wrote: |
I like it. I appreciate it. I just do not see it at 62K. One important little detail which I see missing is the mileag, whether matching numbers, etc. And pictures of the usual rust locations.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2675311
I would personally value it at 45K. But that is me.
Ah well. It may be worth that, but not to me. |
45k is still a lot for a white notchback, non-sunroof. They just don't have the pull and the market is horrible now so at 62k is serious pie in the sky. Lots of little things wrong to be considered "restored" to me in the truest - like it was in 62.
But it is very clean, well maintained from what we can see and is a very nice example for sure. If he gets an offer for 35k, he should take it. But I doubt it will cover that laundry list of work he spouted off having been done to it by outside sources and no sweat equity. |
High 20's on a good day - Way too many people way overestimate on these notchbacks thinking they are rare...
just my opinion of course |
Exactly, they are "rare" |
Ad is inactive now so maybe pending sale? |
For every butt, there is a seat.
This is exactly what to go for in my honest opinion. 
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Erik G
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| Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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This is exactly what to go for in my honest opinion. |
Agreed. There are fantastic original examples available world wide. Nice original cars will always be better than stitched together old parts cars rebuilt to BAT standards regardless of the hype men pushing them.
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:56 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| Erik G wrote: |
| notchboy wrote: |
This is exactly what to go for in my honest opinion. |
Agreed. There are fantastic original examples available world wide. Nice original cars will always be better than stitched together old parts cars rebuilt to BAT standards regardless of the hype men pushing them. |
Nothing beats original. That’s an insane price for that car. Over here it would be double at least don’t you think?
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:40 am Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| EasternNotch wrote: |
| squaretobehip wrote: |
| ALLWAGONS wrote: |
| I guess notchbacks are still a thing. |
Real Type 3 peeps know Squarebacks are the best!
I would trade my Notchback for another early Squareback (+cash depending on the car... ) in a heartbeat. |
What? gotta have at least one of each type 3
Now to find a late sunroof automatic Notch
-Lucas |
I tried that once, and found that splitting the mileage worked against the cars, but it was a cool thought. At the time I had a 65 Notchback, a 70 Fastback, a 69 Squareback, and a 64 T-34. The 69 Square ended up getting the most use, as I drove it daily to work. These cars are happiest when driven regularly.
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| People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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Tram
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| Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| notchboy wrote: |
| EverettB wrote: |
| notchboy wrote: |
| Erik G wrote: |
| notchboy wrote: |
| Ossipon wrote: |
I like it. I appreciate it. I just do not see it at 62K. One important little detail which I see missing is the mileag, whether matching numbers, etc. And pictures of the usual rust locations.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2675311
I would personally value it at 45K. But that is me.
Ah well. It may be worth that, but not to me. |
45k is still a lot for a white notchback, non-sunroof. They just don't have the pull and the market is horrible now so at 62k is serious pie in the sky. Lots of little things wrong to be considered "restored" to me in the truest - like it was in 62.
But it is very clean, well maintained from what we can see and is a very nice example for sure. If he gets an offer for 35k, he should take it. But I doubt it will cover that laundry list of work he spouted off having been done to it by outside sources and no sweat equity. |
High 20's on a good day - Way too many people way overestimate on these notchbacks thinking they are rare...
just my opinion of course |
Exactly, they are "rare" |
Ad is inactive now so maybe pending sale? |
For every butt, there is a seat.
This is exactly what to go for in my honest opinion. |
Only problem is that it's a Deluxe model with a Standard engine, which begs other questions.
That said, if it is TuV certified there likely aren't any drivability issues or safety concerns. Looks well constructed and worth the price of admission to me.
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notchboy
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| Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| Braukuche wrote: |
| Erik G wrote: |
| notchboy wrote: |
This is exactly what to go for in my honest opinion. |
Agreed. There are fantastic original examples available world wide. Nice original cars will always be better than stitched together old parts cars rebuilt to BAT standards regardless of the hype men pushing them. |
Nothing beats original. That’s an insane price for that car. Over here it would be double at least don’t you think? |
Yes, easily. I've been telling Mario to ship me a couple of his to sell here. I might sell my bus and do it myself 🤣😎🤙🌸
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Erik G
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| Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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The thing is, when I look at cars in other countries, I regularly see notchbacks in this condition about this price. More so than fastbacks or squarebacks and I gotta say, I like squarebacks better too.
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Ossipon
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| Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Type 3 cars and parts for sale |
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| ALLWAGONS wrote: |
| EasternNotch wrote: |
| squaretobehip wrote: |
| ALLWAGONS wrote: |
| I guess notchbacks are still a thing. |
Real Type 3 peeps know Squarebacks are the best!
I would trade my Notchback for another early Squareback (+cash depending on the car... ) in a heartbeat. |
What? gotta have at least one of each type 3
Now to find a late sunroof automatic Notch
-Lucas |
What about this beauty? this is rare!
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2675685 |
This is what I really would have liked to have purchased over my 64 Notch four years ago. But. I will keep what I have. I am trying to do my best to not restroy but restore. The problem is that I realize the best solution would bave been a "dip job" I am not able to get where I really would like to prevent the slow rot. I may do a proverbial "steve" once I am ready to paint. But for now. I am piecing bit by bit.
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