Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
Difference in 6mm and 8mm oil pumps
Forum Index -> Beetle - 1958-1967 Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
jonnypink
Samba Member


Joined: July 14, 2006
Posts: 126
Location: Chatsworth, CA
jonnypink is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: Difference in 6mm and 8mm oil pumps Reply with quote

Does anyone know the difference in the oil pumps other than the stud size. I believe that the 6mm does not go in as deep, but want to verify.
_________________
66 Type I
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Glenn Premium Member
Mr. 010


Joined: December 25, 2001
Posts: 79577
Location: Sneaking up behind you
Glenn is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I "think" the 6mm have 21mm gears and the 8mm have 26mm gears.
_________________
Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"

Member #1009

#BlueSquare

עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
AlteWagen
Troll


Joined: February 23, 2007
Posts: 8699
Location: PNW
AlteWagen is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stock pumps are 21mm
Heavy duty pumps are 26mm
Pumps that are too big for most have 30mm
_________________
Grapes of Wrath $200 Engine Rebuild
Official Dual Carb Thread
Cylinder Head Quick Reference Sheet
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
AlteWagen
Troll


Joined: February 23, 2007
Posts: 8699
Location: PNW
AlteWagen is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot, early pumps have a shorter shaft that engages the cam and are called "flat cam" pumps, you can tell if it is a flat cam if it has a bolt on gear or only 3 rivets. Later cams with 4 rivets are "dished" and need a longer shaft.
_________________
Grapes of Wrath $200 Engine Rebuild
Official Dual Carb Thread
Cylinder Head Quick Reference Sheet
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Jeff Geisen
Samba Chaplain


Joined: December 21, 2004
Posts: 1932
Location: N.W. Georgia
Jeff Geisen is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2025 1:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Difference in 6mm and 8mm oil pumps Reply with quote

I’m swapping engines in a bug with auto stick. Going from flat to dished cam. So I exchange the short gear/shaft in the oil pump for the dished cam part?
_________________
I Corinthians 4: 1 thru 5

‘63 ragtop - ‘68 single cab
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Instagram Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Glenn Premium Member
Mr. 010


Joined: December 25, 2001
Posts: 79577
Location: Sneaking up behind you
Glenn is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2025 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Difference in 6mm and 8mm oil pumps Reply with quote

Jeff Geisen wrote:
I’m swapping engines in a bug with auto stick. Going from flat to dished cam. So I exchange the short gear/shaft in the oil pump for the dished cam part?

I guess that's your only option since autostick oil pumps are NLA.
_________________
Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"

Member #1009

#BlueSquare

עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
zerotofifty
Samba Member


Joined: December 27, 2003
Posts: 3791

zerotofifty is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2025 3:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Difference in 6mm and 8mm oil pumps Reply with quote

Use some clay on the end of the driven pump shaft and do a mock up assembly then remove and look at the clay impression so you can see how much the drive engages. you want enough engagement, but dont wont zero clearance between the pump drive shaft and bottom of the cam gear slot. clay can be used for this purpose, clay aint only for Gumbie.
_________________
Sorry About That Chief.

Give Peace a Chance.

Words to live by.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Cusser
Samba Member


Joined: October 02, 2006
Posts: 33109
Location: Hot Arizona
Cusser is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Difference in 6mm and 8mm oil pumps Reply with quote

Jeff Geisen wrote:
I’m swapping engines in a bug with auto stick. Going from flat to dished cam. So I exchange the short gear/shaft in the oil pump for the dished cam part?

I did similar like 3 decades ago on a non-auto oil pump; actually it was a Claude's Buggies/CB Maxi2. I needed a Maxi2 for an engine with a dished camshaft gear, and would've ordered brand-new but CB was out of them/backordered at the time. So I took out the 26mm too-short gear and bought locally a 26mm VW oil pump for a dished cam gear, and used its long gear in the Maxi2.

3 decades, and it' been OK so far !!!
_________________
1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Beetle - 1958-1967 All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2025, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.