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DannyT3
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 Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:49 am Post subject: Question about 1500 transmission in -64 bug |
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I've a -67 1500 trans with the long axles in my -64 bug. If my memory is right, I used the backing plate and "bearing" cover from my original transmission.
I've torqued the 36mm bolt, but still have a tiny bit play. Is there different tickness on the inner spacer?
I measured the one on the outside, but they are equal...
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mcmscott
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:02 am Post subject: Re: Question about 1500 tranmission in -64 bug |
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Spacers are the same from early to late. If you are unsure about the cap(retainer) measure from the edge of the bearing down to the backing plate, then measure the depth of the retainer. Another trick with long axles is to look at the shock Leg" there will be a letter on it if it is an "a" casting the retainer should be a closed retainer without a suffix on it. If the leg has a "B" on it the number on the retainer will end with an "A"
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DannyT3
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:13 am Post subject: Re: Question about 1500 tranmission in -64 bug |
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Okay, thanks, will have to take a closer look at the retainer. If my memory serves me right, I was suppose to use the one from the 1200 box, when switching the 4 bolt 1500 trans from 4 to 5 lug drum..?
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DannyT3
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: Question about 1500 tranmission in -64 bug |
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| mcmscott wrote: |
| Spacers are the same from early to late. If you are unsure about the cap(retainer) measure from the edge of the bearing down to the backing plate, then measure the depth of the retainer. Another trick with long axles is to look at the shock Leg" there will be a letter on it if it is an "a" casting the retainer should be a closed retainer without a suffix on it. If the leg has a "B" on it the number on the retainer will end with an "A" |
So instead of using the retainer from the 1200 short axle, the one from the 1500 long axle is the correct one?
I was sure I've read here on the samba, to use the retainer from my old axle, when going from 4 to 5 lug bolt pattern.. |
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mcmscott
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: Question about 1500 tranmission in -64 bug |
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| DannyT3 wrote: |
| mcmscott wrote: |
| Spacers are the same from early to late. If you are unsure about the cap(retainer) measure from the edge of the bearing down to the backing plate, then measure the depth of the retainer. Another trick with long axles is to look at the shock Leg" there will be a letter on it if it is an "a" casting the retainer should be a closed retainer without a suffix on it. If the leg has a "B" on it the number on the retainer will end with an "A" |
So instead of using the retainer from the 1200 short axle, the one from the 1500 long axle is the correct one?
I was sure I've read here on the samba, to use the retainer from my old axle, when going from 4 to 5 lug bolt pattern.. |
Did you measure what you have? If you actually did then you would know what will work, therefore you are asking a null question.
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EVfun 
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2016 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: Question about 1500 tranmission in -64 bug |
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My beach buggy running '67 axles and tubes with the bearing caps (and brakes) from the '64 frame. '68 axle tubes require '68 bearing caps. '65-'67 are interchangeable with the '58-'64, but the later ones do have the built in oil deflector.
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DannyT3
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: Question about 1500 tranmission in -64 bug |
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Did you measure what you have? If you actually did then you would know what will work, therefore you are asking a null question. |
Still haven't measured, (hope this isn't a new null question) just wondering, should I have used the retainers from the 1500 trans, only using the backing plate and break drum from the 1200 one?
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EVfun
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: Question about 1500 transmission in -64 bug |
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You mentioned 4 lug drums. U.S. spec Bugs where 5 lug in 1967. It sounds like you may have a 1968 transaxle. With that transaxle you needto use the bearing caps that came with the transaxle. 1968 is also the first year of the long spline axles, so you would need a spacer outside of your brake drum before the nut if you retain the older 5 lug drums (and backing plates.)
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DannyT3
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Question about 1500 transmission in -64 bug |
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| EVfun wrote: |
| You mentioned 4 lug drums. U.S. spec Bugs where 5 lug in 1967. It sounds like you may have a 1968 transaxle. With that transaxle you needto use the bearing caps that came with the transaxle. 1968 is also the first year of the long spline axles, so you would need a spacer outside of your brake drum before the nut if you retain the older 5 lug drums (and backing plates.) |
It may have come from an early 68, it has 4 lug drums and long axles. I did use the the bearing caps from the 4 lug, backing plate from the 5 lug, also made spacer from the 4 lug drum to tighten the 5 lug drum in place...
Still I have a tiny bit play on the drums, the space used on the outside are thick enough though. |
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mcmscott
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: Question about 1500 tranmission in -64 bug |
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| mcmscott wrote: |
| DannyT3 wrote: |
| mcmscott wrote: |
| Spacers are the same from early to late. If you are unsure about the cap(retainer) measure from the edge of the bearing down to the backing plate, then measure the depth of the retainer. Another trick with long axles is to look at the shock Leg" there will be a letter on it if it is an "a" casting the retainer should be a closed retainer without a suffix on it. If the leg has a "B" on it the number on the retainer will end with an "A" |
So instead of using the retainer from the 1200 short axle, the one from the 1500 long axle is the correct one?
I was sure I've read here on the samba, to use the retainer from my old axle, when going from 4 to 5 lug bolt pattern.. |
Did you measure what you have? If you actually did then you would know what will work, therefore you are asking a null question. |
And here we go
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DannyT3
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:41 am Post subject: Re: Question about 1500 transmission in -64 bug |
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nice signature mcmscott  |
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