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Merian Samba Member

Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:20 pm Post subject: Vanagon Forum as Compared to other Forums |
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or Fora, or BBS's...
this is meant as a companion thread to http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=668662
which poses the Question: What is wrong with "you people"*
Vanagon owners seem to be friendlier than posters on many other forums, but often appear seriously stoned, low-buck and make "poor choices" rather properly maintain the vehicle
as one wag put it: standiing in a five gallon bucket
- you know the above pretty much sums up the engineers who designed the vanagon (unit body & auto trans. excepted)
* and BTW, that is NOT a good phrase to use in some places _________________ .... |
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SCM Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 3463 Location: Bozeman MT
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Forum as Compared to other Forums |
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I'm not sure what you're asking here.  _________________ '91 Westfalia GL Automatic (GTA "Turbo" Rebuild w/Peloquin) and 2.3L GoWesty Engine |
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Terry Kay Banned

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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Forum as Compared to other Forums |
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I don't think there is anything "wrong" with anyone here, I know that there are some very sheltered folks who don't have a clue regarding street smarts, & how to absorb plain english without calling in Mommy.
I also think there will be a big change coming soon on how things spoken are percieved, and reacted upon.
Not by me, but by the entire world.
Mean what you say, and say what you mean.
I am elated that life will get back to normal. _________________ T.K.
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Jamo7 Samba Member

Joined: September 25, 2014 Posts: 124 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Forum as Compared to other Forums |
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I love this forum! In this case its because of the conversation that just took place between two people. Two different people with different ways of thinking.
I understand the question because I have been following the train wreck- I mean thread referenced above. The question is asking if people are nicer, meaner, more or less helpful- however you want to compare the Vanagon forum compared to other forums you know.
I don't participate in any other forums and I have never owned another VW. I didn't know I was joining a cult when I bought the Vanagon. Like I said before however, I absolutely love it!
James _________________ '84 Westy 2.1 wbx |
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Mellow Yellow 74 Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2014 Posts: 1615 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Forum as Compared to other Forums |
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| Merian wrote: |
Vanagon owners seem to be friendlier than posters on many other forums
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Really? If you want to see a friendly forum have a look on the Karmann Ghia forum. There is hardly ever the need to delete posts and threads only get locked if they are duplicating existing threads, rather than being locked after becoming a complete shit fight like on here. _________________ 1962 Karmann Ghia
1974 Deluxe Microbus
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member

Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12175 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Forum as Compared to other Forums |
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| Worst section of ever...ever |
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Merian Samba Member

Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Forum as Compared to other Forums |
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| Mellow Yellow 74 wrote: |
| Merian wrote: |
Vanagon owners seem to be friendlier than posters on many other forums
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Really? If you want to see a friendly forum have a look on the Karmann Ghia forum. There is hardly ever the need to delete posts and threads only get locked if they are duplicating existing threads, rather than being locked after becoming a complete shit fight like on here. |
maybe I was thinking about Subaru forums and other brands of German cars... _________________ .... |
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raoul mitgong Samba Member

Joined: July 05, 2009 Posts: 1340 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Forum as Compared to other Forums |
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Only other forum I've been addicted to has been Mountainbuzz.com (whitewater kayaking). Pretty similar I'd say. Some trouble makers and trolls but good info and entertainment. We could use a Chunderboy (RIP) around here though.
http://www.mountainbuzz.com/forums/f11/chunderboy-rants-17342.html
-d _________________ 84 Westy with a 2.1 (Groover)
86 Tintop Syncro (Crow)
86 Tintop Syncro to Westy project (Tom Servo)
91 Westy (Only the top 12 inches of this van (a burn victim)) |
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SCM Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 3463 Location: Bozeman MT
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Forum as Compared to other Forums |
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| Jamo7 wrote: |
| I understand the question because I have been following the train wreck- I mean thread referenced above. |
Ah, that probably explains it. I don't have very much* interest in internet drama or kumbaya sessions. I'm mostly just here for technical stuff and cool photos.
I try to reserve my patience and "feelings" for people who I see face to face.
* clearly I have SOME interest, hence my posts in this thread. But this is the last of those. _________________ '91 Westfalia GL Automatic (GTA "Turbo" Rebuild w/Peloquin) and 2.3L GoWesty Engine |
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Mellow Yellow 74 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Forum as Compared to other Forums |
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| Terry Kay wrote: |
| I also think there will be a big change coming soon on how things spoken are percieved, and reacted upon. |
Truthiness is a quality characterizing a "truth" that a person making an argument or assertion claims to know intuitively "from the gut" or because it "feels right" without regard to evidence, logic, intellectual examination, or facts _________________ 1962 Karmann Ghia
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h00drat Samba Member

Joined: May 31, 2016 Posts: 881 Location: Hood River
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Forum as Compared to other Forums |
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I just read through the entire train wreck thread.
I've utilized MANY forums, but only really frequented 2. This one, and a vintage motorcycle forumn.
Both are virtually identical. A few super knowledgable "trouble makers"...er...people with very little filtering, and then everyone else.
What I find interesting is that typically those labeled as trouble makers actually are pretty knowledgable, sometimes even REALLY knowledgeable on tropic, but it is the way they say things that get them in trouble. I've developed thick skin on forums and take those comments with the rest. _________________ <<Tyler>>
1987.5 Wolfsburg Weekender / CHC / 2.0 ABA
CHC Top Thread
Engine Conversion Thread (2.0 ABA Swap)
ABA Swap - Image Gallery
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bluebus86 Banned
Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 11075
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Forum as Compared to other Forums |
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| h00drat wrote: |
I just read through the entire train wreck thread.
I've utilized MANY forums, but only really frequented 2. This one, and a vintage motorcycle forumn.
Both are virtually identical. A few super knowledgable "trouble makers"...er...people with very little filtering, and then everyone else.
What I find interesting is that typically those labeled as trouble makers actually are pretty knowledgable, sometimes even REALLY knowledgeable on tropic, but it is the way they say things that get them in trouble. I've developed thick skin on forums and take those comments with the rest. |
I think one problem is when you got a moderator whos skin is so thin it could be used as a screendoor. its like they hold a personal grudge and anything you do they dont like, so sad,wheres the love???? _________________ Help Prevent VW Engine Fires, see this link.....Engine safety wire information
Stop introducing dirt into your oil when adjusting valves ... https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=683022 |
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fxr Samba Member

Joined: December 07, 2014 Posts: 2671 Location: Bay area CA
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: Vanagon Forum as Compared to other Forums |
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I'm a moderator on the other forum I frequent daily (username jimc):
http://modernvespa.com/forum/
That is very friendly - but occasionally there are obnoxious troublemakers. Plenty of curmudgeons (I'm one!) but that's a different species.
We have the karma system there (thumbs up/down) for 'helpful' or 'obnoxious' posts. If a poster gets too many thumbs down for a particular post it gets disemvowelled which seems pretty effective at shutting them up. If over time they get too many thumbs down without enough redeeming thumbs up then they get automatically banned. Moderators can also eject any member from just one thread if they've got their knickers in a twist. That carries no extra penalty.
We hardly ever have to take action to ban people, but it does happen, usually to the occasional spammer who gets past the registration checks. A banned individual cannot re-register using any one of the same username, same email address, same IP address or same password. Spammers also get added to the forum spam database.
It all tickles along very nicely - the main forum rule is '"Don't be a dick". It's survived very well for over eleven years. _________________ Jim Crowther
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Bills85Westy Samba Member

Joined: August 01, 2009 Posts: 428 Location: Napa CA
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member

Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10504 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:41 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon Forum as Compared to other Forums |
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I run an email list and can appreciate how much time it takes to at least scan post content for any red flags. Thinking now, I bet there's software that can help with that. Anyhow.....
In general, it's my understanding that one should compose online posts as if they were speaking to their grandmother. Doing so usually helps quell poor manners and misunderstandings.
Not claiming to be perfect,
Neil. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
(VW Gas I4)
1988 Westy DIY 50º ABA
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fxr Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:49 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon Forum as Compared to other Forums |
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| Vanagon Nut wrote: |
I run an email list and can appreciate how much time it takes to at least scan post content for any red flags. Thinking now, I bet there's software that can help with that. Anyhow.....
In general, it's my understanding that one should compose online posts as if they were speaking to their grandmother. Doing so usually helps quell poor manners and misunderstandings.
Not claiming to be perfect,
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As a reminder to that, on the modernvespa.com forum one has a choice before submitting a post:
_________________ Jim Crowther
1984 1.9l EJ22 Westy Wolfsburg Edition
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E1 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2013 Posts: 8552 Location: Westfalia, Earth
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:59 am Post subject: Re: Vanagon Forum as Compared to other Forums |
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I've been extremely active on two other forums, hosted by one source, for nearly six years.
One is about anything and everything and does contain insults. It loses strength every day.
The other is mostly about racing memories, teams, cars, drivers, etc. We mostly recognize we love the same things there, so respect each other and lose far fewer members.
I've experienced more crap here in my 20 recent posts than the last 500 there. So what do we want this Forum to be?
My answer is: Exactly what it is now, except intolerable of comments you wouldn't want said to your wife, or your family, or your friends, or...
Considering we drive a vehicle connected to a Love movement, it seems there's too much of the other around here. |
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