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camit34 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:29 pm Post subject: New Intakes Too Large and Rub on Tin Question |
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Did some looking around and did not find anything about this
These intakes are from CB and for the IDF 40s I'm going to mount.
They are too wide to fit due to the tin. There is no room for me to bend the tin out of the way, so curious of you would grind the intake (it's pretty thick right in that spot) so that it fits.
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oldschool5er Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: New Intakes Too Large and Rub on Tin Question |
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I cut the tin at the spark plug hole at the thinnest point at the bottom by the intake gasket, then bend them in behind the manifold. It just takes a tin snip not metal removal. _________________ HRE in Westerville,Ohio
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rodjr Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: New Intakes Too Large and Rub on Tin Question |
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| If you have good German tin, grind the manifolds. |
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Kiwi1966 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: New Intakes Too Large and Rub on Tin Question |
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I had the same issure with my cb manifolds, and german tin1 There is plently of meat there.Used a flappy disk and gave them a trim up,
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camit34 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: New Intakes Too Large and Rub on Tin Question |
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Nice!
Yeah, good German tin so going to do the manifold trim.
Thank you for your time and the great info! _________________ In search of a Vanagon
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67rustavenger Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: New Intakes Too Large and Rub on Tin Question |
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Make sure to clearance the manifold flanges to clear the hold down nuts. I found that the nuts would fit on the head studs. But without a washer.
Also you want to be able to get a socket on the intake manifold nuts. So you may have to clearance the manifold above the head to intake flange as well.
These dual carbs can be a bitch to install with the engine in the vehicle. It's a good idea to have a 1/4" drive ratchet and extensions. Sockets too, to slip between the forward manifold hold down nuts and the forward tin.
You'll see what I mean when you install the engine and carbs.
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richparker Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: New Intakes Too Large and Rub on Tin Question |
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Don’t forget the vacuum port for the booster.
That’s a bunch of work to do by Saturday, I hope you pull it off!
Either way those carbs and that VS exhaust is gonna give that 1914 a whole new feel. Stoked for you!!! _________________ __________
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camit34 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: New Intakes Too Large and Rub on Tin Question |
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| 67rustavenger wrote: |
Make sure to clearance the manifold flanges to clear the hold down nuts. I found that the nuts would fit on the head studs. But without a washer.
Also you want to be able to get a socket on the intake manifold nuts. So you may have to clearance the manifold above the head to intake flange as well.
These dual carbs can be a bitch to install with the engine in the vehicle. It's a good idea to have a 1/4" drive ratchet and extensions. Sockets too, to slip between the forward manifold hold down nuts and the forward tin.
You'll see what I mean when you install the engine and carbs.
Good Luck. |
Great info, thanks! _________________ In search of a Vanagon
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camit34 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: New Intakes Too Large and Rub on Tin Question |
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| richparker wrote: |
Don’t forget the vacuum port for the booster.
That’s a bunch of work to do by Saturday, I hope you pull it off!
Either way those carbs and that VS exhaust is gonna give that 1914 a whole new feel. Stoked for you!!! |
It's on my list...
Yeah, we'll see. If the Bus isn't ready I'll swing down for and just check out the others.
I'm looking forward to giving it a run once it's running. _________________ In search of a Vanagon
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camit34 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: New Intakes Too Large and Rub on Tin Question |
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In progress. Going good so far.
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74 Thing Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:50 am Post subject: Re: New Intakes Too Large and Rub on Tin Question |
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| Make sure the manifolds slip on with both the cylinder tins and fan shroud bolted together. Sometimes the shroud will push the tins outward and this will cause more interference. |
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camit34 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: New Intakes Too Large and Rub on Tin Question |
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| 74 Thing wrote: |
| Make sure the manifolds slip on with both the cylinder tins and fan shroud bolted together. Sometimes the shroud will push the tins outward and this will cause more interference. |
Ah, good point. Thank you! _________________ In search of a Vanagon
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camit34 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: New Intakes Too Large and Rub on Tin Question |
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Update? How’s the day go?
Just washed mine and packing now. Hoping to leave around 11 tomorrow. |
Manifolds are on and fit great with the fan shroud on. _________________ In search of a Vanagon
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richparker Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: New Intakes Too Large and Rub on Tin Question |
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I would set them up on the engine out of the bus. Including the linkage, making sure it has WOT, float bowls set, fuel lines run (depending on your plan with those) and all. Then install, it’ll be tight and you’ll have to angle it a bit to get past the rear apron ears, but it can be done.
Did you get the vacuum port drilled and tapped? _________________ __________
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