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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:09 pm    Post subject: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

Tired of my Floppy Outside Mirrors on my 1986 Vanagon.

I discovered that there are many ideas out there for fixing the originals and also for replacement mirrors from current vehicle production......
Jeep Wrangler, door mount
Jeep CJ, hinge mount
Toyota FJ Cruiser
Subaru
Various Truck mirrors

I searched for threads on them and for installation of various types but this is all I came up with.....
Thought that I'd list them here for easy reference.

March 2015.....
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6...highlight=

March 2012.....
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=501995

November 2011.....
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=487490&highlight=jeep+mirror

December 2015....
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=643513

February 2016.....
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=647461&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0


October 2011....
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=485367

March 2006.....
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=161648

August 2010.....
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4996433-aftermarket-vanagon-mirrors

December 2012.....
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4996433-aftermarket-vanagon-mirrors

February 2016 ..... Jeep Wrangler side mirrors
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7989492#7989492

Me? I just ordered a set or Jeep Wrangler Door mounted mirrors.....
I'll be posting a "How To' after they arrive....

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

There is also Landrover defender 110 mirror, with an adapter mounted in the stock location too.
http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/t3-crap-mirrors_topic75642_page4.html
A member goes by Rowlesy make the adapters. I planning to make my own adapter plate, looks pretty simple and doesnt require drilling any holes.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

Funny Laughing
just saw your wrangler post, was going to comment with a bunch of links
....and here you are BTDT Shocked
I like the FJ option myself,
... but I lucked into some VW OEM power mirrors with nice glass
rebuilt them and they are great
I fold them flat when I park Shocked these vans are getting hard to leave unattended Anxious
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:32 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

Thanks for the link consolidation.

Do the $37 gowesty replacement mirrors routinely fail? They appear to be a simple, affordable, OEM-like, bolt-on solution. The jeep mirrors appear to meet only one of those criteria (affordable).

http://www.gowesty.com/product-details.php?v=&id=2239
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

jimf909 wrote:
Thanks for the link consolidation.

Do the $37 gowesty replacement mirrors routinely fail? They appear to be a simple, affordable, OEM-like, bolt-on solution. The jeep mirrors appear to meet only one of those criteria (affordable).

http://www.gowesty.com/product-details.php?v=&id=2239


Imonly know what I read in the above links. The GW mirror apparently has a rubber washer that wears, thus becoming floppy.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:19 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

goffoz wrote:
Funny Laughing
just saw your wrangler post, was going to comment with a bunch of links
....and here you are BTDT Shocked
I like the FJ option myself,
... but I lucked into some VW OEM power mirrors with nice glass
rebuilt them and they are great
I fold them flat when I park Shocked these vans are getting hard to leave unattended Anxious


The Toyota FJ mirrors could be an option and are mentioned in the above threads.

Has anyone installed one successfully?

The FJ mirror also hugs the door quite closely.....

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:00 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

What appears to be another viable option are mirrors for the Hummer.

They are door mounted but sadly the prices for them are frighteningly high as a new item. By High, I'm talking almost $300 each!

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I also noticed that the redesigned Ford Transit Connect (2016) has a mirror system that is door mounted but not on a plastic triangle like most. It has a small "vent" window and the mirror mounts on a thin plastic piece. It may be hard to incorporate it's design into the Vanagon though.

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And yes, I've become obsessed with Door Mirrors and I now drive looking at mirror mounting.... I'm probably a "distracted" driver right now! Shocked

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

jimf909 - My experience with the GoWesty mirrors has not been good. They are no better than the originals I took off my van.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

Not to take away from the alternative mirror subject, but for those who want to keep their early style mirrors, carbon friction paste works wonders for keeping them in position. Carbon friction paste (also known as Fiber Grip, Super Grip and many other trade names) is a waterproof grease with heavy grit in it. It's made for improving the "gription" of carbon fiber products, like bike seat posts, bars, etc., so that you don't have to clamp onto them so tightly (potentially damaging the carbon fiber). You can pick it up for cheap at bike shops, REI, etc.

Simply take the mirrors off the van, remove the nut from the post inside the base, pull the assembly apart, apply a liberal amount of the carbon friction paste to the male/female ball pivot area of the mirror and reassemble. That nut needs to be pretty darn tight, but not so tight that you pull the stud out of the mirror.

I did this years ago to some cheap replacement mirrors and unless a person bumps into them, they consistently maintain their adjustment, even in heavy winds and higher freeway speeds.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

My GW flop free mirror flop no matter how much i tighten the bolt. End up making my own friction grease(silica powder with grease), and put in between the metal joint. the mirror haven't flop since but i planning to go to other mirror option since i want to fold the mirror back and don't know how well the friction grease works once i start moving it around.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

Like Chris, I have had no problems with my GW mirror once I put a thin rubber washer between the ball and socket and cinched it down tight. But, maybe the quality varies from unit to unit.

On a recent post it was mentioned that the OG power windows tend to deflect bugs in through the window if it is open at highway speeds. Any such problems with the jeep door mounted mirrors or other brand mirrors?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

I wonder if valve grinding compound would work the same as the stuff Christopher is talking about
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

Zeitgeist 13 wrote:
I wonder if valve grinding compound would work the same as the stuff Christopher is talking about


Its gritty...... I dont see why not.
My only concern would be rainwater washing it onto the paint....... What is the suspension agent in valve grinding compound?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

Then There is always the classic GM mirror........ 1973-1996 GMC/Chevy Van/Truck..........

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
Then There is always the classic GM mirror........ 1973-1996 GMC/Chevy Van/Truck..........

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

Another mirror option would be these rather than a top/bottom mount "West Coast" design.

A tad "industrial" looking but fully functional.

Had I seen these a week ago, this may have been choice #1 over the Wrangler door mount units!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:21 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
Another mirror option would be these rather than a top/bottom mount "West Coast" design.

A tad "industrial" looking but fully functional.

Had I seen these a week ago, this may have been choice #1 over the Wrangler door mount units!

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I like these...they kinda match the nut and bolt simplicity of the vanagon. I wonder if they mount up using the existing mounting holes on the van door?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: Replacement mirrors, a consolidation of posts Reply with quote

I do not know...... But I agree, they have a big appeal..... But alas..... Too,late for me!

Aw come on..... You KNOW you want them!

Order them and let us all know.

Even if you must drill a new hole you'll be in the door reinforcement plate VW installed to support the mirrors... In the photo below, the screw you see is the front mirror screw......

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