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		| vanir97 Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:42 pm    Post subject: Removing seat rails from 65 beetle(ones attached to floor) |   |  
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				| Bought a set of replacement seats from i I’ve for my 65 beetle - were told they were a direct fit replacement - they’re not it looks like they don’t slide over the existing rails but instead bolt directly to the floor - so how do I remove the existing floor rails |  | 
	
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		| TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing seat rails from 65 beetle(ones attached to floor) |   |  
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				| Leave your original ones in place.  The aftermarket ones suck, the metal is much thinner & they tend to fatigue & fail. _________________
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		| bluebus86 Banned
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing seat rails from 65 beetle(ones attached to floor) |   |  
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	  | vanir97 wrote: |  
	  | Bought a set of replacement seats from i I’ve for my 65 beetle - were told they were a direct fit replacement - they’re not it looks like they don’t slide over the existing rails but instead bolt directly to the floor - so how do I remove the existing floor rails |  
 cut off wheel then grind of remaining
 sawsall  or pnuematic saw then grind of remaining
 spot weld cutter, then grind off remaining
 
 you may be able to leave the horizontal part of the rails on the pan, and simply re move the upper part of the rails
 
 beware grinders and cut  off wheel throw sparks, which can ruin upholstery, paint, even pit window glass, protect every thing!
 
 for me, Id return the seats, and obtain correct ones rather than modify the pan
 
 another option is to secure a plate using standoffs over the rails,  say with bolts to the pan, and to that plate attach the seat, or maybe stand offs alone will work with no plate.  for me I would do what will work with minimum pan alterations, if the rails can stay, say by using stand offs, that is what I probably would try.
 
 what kind of seats are these, got a link to the seller, or maker?
 
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		| Digger89L Samba Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Removing seat rails from 65 beetle(ones attached to floor) |   |  
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				| If the seats you bought 'bolt down' rather than use the more common pan-mounted rails, they must be from a 'custom' (stripped-down) model. Those seats would be somewhat desireable on the re-sale market. So ....I agree, get a set of proper rail-style seats, rather than chopping up your floor pans. My 2 cents.  (oops ....can't say that anymore ....we don't use pennies in Canada!) _________________
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