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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 3:03 pm    Post subject: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

hello vw friends

the samba is one of my best site when i need information or tips for my vw air-cooled ... so let me add my humble topic for my 65 ... nothing special , just the pleasure to share with you ( also practice my English / frenchglish ) , i'm to tired social media Rolling Eyes Smile

we own several air-cooled before , beetle ( 62 66 68 69 ) , some baywindow ( 71 79 and more for few month ) , a t25 2.1 wbx and a 64 notchback.

just before xmas we receive a 65 walk through ... our first split-screen bus.

this a 11 windows passenger bus ... the mplate indicate that it was deliver to L.A , and i know it was in idaho for several years.. after the bus shipped to uk , had some work to go back on the road , and a samba member take it to the isle of wight. 10 years after , i buy it and the bus is now in France ( next to Switzerland and Germany border )

fun fact : when you look at technical section of the samba for color scheme , this is our bus on photo for example ( the 3th photo link )

idaho license plate slogan is " the world famous potatoes " , my region is know as the " high potatoes " Smile

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thx for reading Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 3:14 pm    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

Very cool.

What part of Idaho did it live? Idaho is a large state, the size of Germany, but mostly forests and deserts. It is a good place for Buses. The climate is very dry.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

That is a great picture! Very Happy

These buses love to work and drive. Enjoy.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 2:33 am    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

Lind wrote:
Very cool.

What part of Idaho did it live? Idaho is a large state, the size of Germany, but mostly forests and deserts. It is a good place for Buses. The climate is very dry.

i don't know where it was ... not a lot or rust also ... so yes maybe in dry part of idaho
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:03 am    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

Buggeee wrote:
That is a great picture! Very Happy

These buses love to work and drive. Enjoy.


i just drive it for few miles , winter is here and it need a little work Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

little work on the bus ... because it's very cold , on ski season Very Happy

i was searching for 14' steel rims but , hard to find know , or to expensive.

i test some big tire on the bus ( 175/80/14 and 185/75/14) , stutted tire for some ... 40 years old ...

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i found an old set in my garden Rolling Eyes , and get a refresh

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just need some new hubcap clips , and new tires..

my 71 bus was slammed , but now " i'm too old for this shit " ( lethal weapon ) , and i'm inspired by shasta snow trip and other offroader

thinking about nankang ft9 , available in 185/80/14

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need to remove dropped spindel ... maybe next winter Smile


the bus was in us version for the blinker light , converted to european version in uk , but with some trouble ( no whipper , stop light ... ) and some hasardous wiring... so we rebuild the fuse box with some fix when needed ...

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my wife help me sometimes Very Happy

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more easy to find the good wire than the original vw wiring diagram

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to be continued Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

Do you plan to re-wire for USA specification, or keep it UK/Euro style?

If putting the hazrd circuit back in, be sure to use the right wiring diagram
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/wiring/bus_63_USA_with_emergency.jpg
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

there is no hasard switch on the dashboard , but the hole is present....

need to look for that, it's safer Smile

also indicator relay is 6v version ( bus the bus is 12v ) , lot of fun with wiring Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

The hazard switch itself is readily available new
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and used as well. It looks like you have the big red hazard light in the dash (to left of speedo).

Use either a 211-953-215C turn signal relay from an early baywindow, or get the modern electronic unit and you can run LED lights as well

https://www.pantera-electronics.com/bosch%20hella%20flasher%20relays%20with%20kbl.htm

For the big hazards relay (211-953-207; very hard to find!) you can use anything like this
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or to keep the OG look and use a similar VW unit
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In any case, use the wiring diagram I mentioned previously and you will have no issues.

We have the same extra hole in our 65 buses:
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the third switch hole, below the radio openings. What was in yours? It seems too small for a cigarette lighter.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

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We have the same extra hole in our 65 buses:
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the third switch hole, below the radio openings. What was in yours? It seems too small for a cigarette lighter.


it's for an " on / off " switch for the stereo...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2025 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

little fix yesterday , dome light is operational...

the +12v screw system was broken on one

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my first bus with an headliner and dome light " like it could be "



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i've ordered a 12v flasher relay after chating with 70bus..

new paint for the front bumper, with us specs front bumper ... 2nd and not in good shape , so i have to buy some new parts ( was on a brasilian bus before )

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and the result

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time to work on the rear bumper , but there is a problem ... maybe brasilian over rider bumper is different than US ?

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this parts don't fit with the " round " of the bumper

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i'll test with a new one next days , after a ski week Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

some little thing

new tyre 175/80/14

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a little ride in my garden , where i have empty tank issue Smile
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i've found the instruction on the samba for the us spec bumper , all is ok now ..

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after , i've tried to measure the compression of the motor ... one sparkplug comme without tool Rolling Eyes , and another have some screw thread with , due to an old repair.


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my daughters help me Laughing

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it's out Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:28 pm    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

a friend just pick up for me a industrial vw motor , direct from a switzerland atomic shelter Smile


only 94 hour of run , with full maintenance book


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the older motor will be inspected this winter ..
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

Here’s an option for your hazard wiring. I’ve got a 65 USA van too and wanted to keep the hazards whilst updating wiring to 12v uk spec. I also wanted to remove the floor mounted dimmer and use the stalk like in the 66/67 vans.

Link below for my build thread and the wiring using a 66/67 stalk and a WW 9 pin relay. https://forum.ssvc.org.uk/index.php?threads/%E2%80%98franklin%E2%80%99-65-build-thread.105/
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

That is a fantastic engine. I've never seen one except in brochures and books.
Yours even has a like new Bus pressure plate.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

Troytempest69 wrote:
Here’s an option for your hazard wiring. I’ve got a 65 USA van too and wanted to keep the hazards whilst updating wiring to 12v uk spec. I also wanted to remove the floor mounted dimmer and use the stalk like in the 66/67 vans.

Link below for my build thread and the wiring using a 66/67 stalk and a WW 9 pin relay. https://forum.ssvc.org.uk/index.php?threads/%E2%80%98franklin%E2%80%99-65-build-thread.105/


woowww ! lot of good tips Very Happy for the fuel sender too !

the " selector " is available brand new

https://www.serial-kombi.com/fr-FR/combi-split-ecl...ils-n39838
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:44 am    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

BarryL wrote:
That is a fantastic engine. I've never seen one except in brochures and books.
Yours even has a like new Bus pressure plate.


not so rare here , a lot of them is in use for generator or waterpump ...juste need some modification to fit on the bus , but not expensive for a new motor Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:47 am    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

a short video from my friend


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

If there are so many, start exporting a few! I could use a good gas-powered generator...

Now that we have reliable 9-pin boxes (we do, right?) that 67 conversion is an interesting option. Back when all we had was OG 9-pins they were a source of much cursing and tech writeups. I'm not sure I use my high beams often enough to swap out the t/s switch, though.

Let us know what you decide and show the process.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2025 1:55 am    Post subject: Re: my 65 bus walkthrough , from idaho to france Reply with quote

little work this long week end Smile a friend who built motor help me , and also he had all the tools needed.

a pleasure to work with a brand new motor , no modification or another issue, also all is clean Smile


we take the clutch and the flywheel of my old motor to put on the new.

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after 30 min ..

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bosh spark plug " period correct " made in germany Wink

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my friend tell me to the change valve spring and valve cups... , but lot of people use it " stock " with no modification ..

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control of flywheel adjustement

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ready to go !

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we have to change the intake manifold , who had a strange size ( 32 carb on industrial motor ).

just need to remove the gasket on the 123ignition because we can't move it ...

after some tune , all is ok ...


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mainteance log of the swiss civil protection
( not for my motor )


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