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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:55 pm    Post subject: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

So your driving your bus downtown 401 Toronto Chicago new York in the afternoon daily traffic jam. You come into this problem with your standard bus you got some @#$%er on your rear and he won't let up because they never driven standard in there life..he is riding your bumper 1 ft away from it, honking being like go faster .. so you put the clutch down and roll up backwards almost into them 1" of it judging by your reverse cam becuase the car doesn't go forwards naturally like an automatic and it doesn't have 400hp like every other car on the road so it takes time to go./ The real problem you got in that traffic jam is how do you use left foot on clutch rt foot on brake in time so guy behind you doesn't hit you and at the same time use the gas pedal?
and that's were this video comes in how to do it. how to have 3 ft at the same time.. when you only have two?
So the natural defense is to add an automatic gas pedal for first gear. I mean just make the bottem of the gas pedal lever longer so you can add a notch to it that you can kick to the left that gives it 1500rpms so you can let the clutch go and operate the brake and clutch to save your ass at the same time.. someone have any other ideas..
video will follow how to do it../
thanks erb
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

no. That is not the way you drive. Once you learn to drive with a clutch do like the trucks do, lay back a little bit and go slow creeping forward at the pace of traffic. No riding the clutch either or you will toast the TO or main thrust bearing. Stay away from the high speed lanes. As to the A_hole behind you, ignore him/her and focus on your own driving. They aren't getting anywhere faster in traffic either. The CHP here gives lessons to state workers on how to be a safe driver. That type of question comes up all the time and the answer is always the same. If the idiot behind you won't keep a safe distance to stop then you have to keep your and his safe distance combined from the car(s) in front of you.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

I use the heal toe method on the hills. If it’s real bad and the guy behind me is real close, I use the e brake to hold tight.
But I can’t wait to see the video of your method. Very Happy Shocked Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

you put a hitch on your ride to impact d-bag before your bumper does. And make sure your rear camera is in record mode
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

I get what you are getting at.....but short of being in San Francisco.....a lot of this would be taken care of just with good practice and skills with a clutch. Yes....even in a bus.

But....of you were to do something along the lines of what you are thinking of.....the floor and assorted lever type rigamarol is not only the wrong way to do it but dangerous.

But there is precedent on other vehicle types for what you are looking for. You want to be able to set a steady, higher than idle rpm so you can feather back and forth between clutch and brake in creeping traffic.

The first simpler suggestion I can make which simply makes the clutch work less tiring....is to install a hydraulic clutch.

Go with an oversized clutch slave snd your clutch action can be feather light.

Aside from that ....what you are looking for is found on a lot of older earth moving machines, farm equipmemt ....and a lot of 1940s and 50s......tanks. its called a hand throttle. Wink

Its just a pull knob on the dash that kicks a pushrod to a cam next to the throttle return spring with a lock adjustment to kick throttle open a set amount.....say...as you note....1500 rpm.

With this you can left foot clutch snd right foot brake in creeping traffic.....but it does not affect normal throttle operation. If you need to right foot the throttle.....you can open it as wide as you want. When you let off....it drops back to 1500 rpm. The hand throttle is simply a temporary throttle stop.

You could take a standard headlight or defrost switch, gut it and install a cable pull. ...mount in the dash so it looks factory.
Cable goes to a pivot bar in the back. The pivot bar is used to Adjust throw. The other end of the pivot bar is just a stop pin. Ray
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

Right heel on the gas, right toe on the brake. Left on the clutch. Let off the clutch until you feel it start to drag and then ease off the brake. With practice you can make it quick and minimize riding the clutch.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:57 pm    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

I demand a video!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

Lets restart this.

You are driving your 59 bug with non synch first gear on NYC traffic, and the traffic behind you is a bit....impatient. You come to full stops, shift at your leisure, and utilize your left hand out the window pointing out your thoughts.
Once in gear, let the car go at idle speed. The followers will get the idea and go around.

With the bus, it's the same thing.

The 77 300D has an idle adjust knob on the dash, perfect as a creeper gear when on the icy driveway, but too slow for creeping traffic.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:39 pm    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

I think you just don't get it you can't let go of the brake in a traffic jam becuase then the brake lights go off and said guy behind you drives forward not rolling backwards when you let go of brake... because he/she is used to automatic were you hold the brakes and the car moves you forward. does that kinda make sense?
the weather was crappy today or I would have made said video john
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

Hmm. That's certainly a spin on it I didn't think of.

Interesting. Not sure I would trust the guy behind me to actually know how to drive either. It shouldn't be any different though to any standard - I know there's less and less of them out there, but it shouldn't be THAT unusual.

Maybe install a really beefy rear bumper?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

learn how to drive a manual.

after 13+/- years of driving a tandem axle dump under the farm exemption I am in the midst of getting my CDL.

roll back on the road test...instant fail. plain and simple. you need to load the driveline by slipping the clutch. DMV doesn't care about your clutch or throw out bearing.

this goes even for a passenger car test. anyway...its a hard habit to break. same with sitting at a traffic light in neutral, foot off the clutch...do that for DMV and boom...fail

as a car guy...it makes my ass pucker to do that. on the flip side, I get where they are coming from. either way, if you can't drive a manual without rolling back you shouldn't be on the road. use the parking brake if need be

I can't *wait* for the video Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

I learned how to drive a standard shift vehicle in NYC and Queens. Rolling back is a no no cause you’re gonna hit the car behind you. As stated above, correct standard driving does not include roll backs.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

To the origjnal poster.....now......I......dont see the issue from how it was just explained in your last post.

So.....you are afraid.....that when your brake lights turn off.....the guy behind you will instantly pop his gas pedal and ram you in the ass because you are not moving?

That's not how driving works. I have not driven an automatic except a rent a car in about 30 years. Its not how "most" people drive. Regardless of brake light,status....you dont move until you observe movement.

You could simply install a standard american car style brake switch on the pedal arm....that wi cut down on the lag.....but i think you are a bit paranoid.

Guys behind you honking the horn are not about your strange brake lights....they are about your slow ass speed! Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:34 pm    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

skills@eurocarsplus wrote:
learn how to drive a manual.

after 13+/- years of driving a tandem axle dump under the farm exemption I am in the midst of getting my CDL.

I can't *wait* for the video Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

Agree with previous posters. Rolling back should not be an issue ever. Hand brake it if you feel you are riding the clutch too much. Hell, if I can drive up hills in San Francisco, stopping at stop signs or lights on a hill and keep going, you can too. I AM kind of dying to see the video though...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:56 pm    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

ha! faster to use a manure spreader full of pig shit. you just can't wash that out...ever. second best is hydraulic chicken...that is thinned out chicken shit
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:30 pm    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 8:38 am    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

It's almost like driving stick is a skill which needs to be taught and learned properly.

On a hill, use the e-brake or heel-toe it.

Don't roll back. Do that and your poor clutch has to reverse that backwards momentum to get going forwards, twice as much work.
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

vwuguy wrote:
I think you just don't get it you can't let go of the brake in a traffic jam becuase then the brake lights go off and said guy behind you drives forward not rolling backwards when you let go of brake... because he/she is used to automatic were you hold the brakes and the car moves you forward. does that kinda make sense?
the weather was crappy today or I would have made said video john


Yeah this is not a real thing to worry about (said as a guy who drives in NYC traffic on the regular)
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: How to add a auto drive feature or 10mph or less in 1st gear Reply with quote

First you gota chill. If you get riled up driving an old VW in shit traffic then you dont do it. My last couple years have been me at odds with just that. I find myself not enjoying the car anymore because of the self imposed stress of not being able to drive it like all the other assholes out there.


Because you cant. Wink


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