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hazetguy
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holy crap, the wintertime threads started early this year. 
now, cue the links to factory literature showing VW using the terms Bus, Van, Transporter, etc.
hasn't this horse been beat to death enough over the years already?
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Abscate
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:11 am Post subject: Re: VW Bus or VW Van |
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| Glenn wrote: |
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| Calling out what someone else’s ride “ should be” makes you a Richard. |
Fixed for you. |
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babysnakes
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus or VW Van |
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| Fuck it......Bus. |
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oprn
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus or VW Van |
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| The Americans produced vans. VW made a Bus! |
when i was a kid, I rode in an American made school bus, not a school van. |
Sure and your Mother gave chase in the Chevy/Ford/Dodge van because you forgot your lunch!
I was privileged to have my Dad buy a 7 passenger VW Bus to drive us around in. 
My theory is that the Americans invented the Van to move cargo in and it subsequently had seats added to diversify it to carry passengers. The Passenger Van was born. School busses were always intended to carry people. In my little world a VW is a bus until all the seats are removed to carry cargo. Then it's a VW van. |
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pondoras box
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:57 am Post subject: Re: VW Bus or VW Van |
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You all got it wrong VW called them station wagons!
Just thought I would throw a little fuel on this fire.
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babysnakes
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:53 am Post subject: Re: VW Bus or VW Van |
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You all got it wrong VW called them station wagons!
Just thought I would throw a little fuel on this fire. |
I think they were only called station wagons in the US for marketing purposes to dance around the chicken tax. I could be wrong. |
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bluebus86
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:07 am Post subject: Re: VW Bus or VW Van |
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| oprn wrote: |
| bluebus86 wrote: |
| oprn wrote: |
| The Americans produced vans. VW made a Bus! |
when i was a kid, I rode in an American made school bus, not a school van. |
Sure and your Mother gave chase in the Chevy/Ford/Dodge van because you forgot your lunch!
I was privileged to have my Dad buy a 7 passenger VW Bus to drive us around in.
My theory is that the Americans invented the Van to move cargo in and it subsequently had seats added to diversify it to carry passengers. The Passenger Van was born. School busses were always intended to carry people. In my little world a VW is a bus until all the seats are removed to carry cargo. Then it's a VW van. |
so you sit on the floor when you drive a van, unless youre a midget, then I suppose you can stand when driving, but either way it would be awkward. visibility out the windows would be poor if sitting on the floor! 
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:26 am Post subject: Re: VW Bus or VW Van |
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| babysnakes wrote: |
| pondoras box wrote: |
You all got it wrong VW called them station wagons!
Just thought I would throw a little fuel on this fire. |
I think they were only called station wagons in the US for marketing purposes to dance around the chicken tax. I could be wrong. |
I think it was to compete against US-made station wagons as that was their target buyer in a lot of cases
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:24 am Post subject: Re: VW Bus or VW Van |
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I love my Midget Bus.
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oprn
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus or VW Van |
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| bluebus86 wrote: |
| oprn wrote: |
| bluebus86 wrote: |
| oprn wrote: |
| The Americans produced vans. VW made a Bus! |
when i was a kid, I rode in an American made school bus, not a school van. |
Sure and your Mother gave chase in the Chevy/Ford/Dodge van because you forgot your lunch!
I was privileged to have my Dad buy a 7 passenger VW Bus to drive us around in.
My theory is that the Americans invented the Van to move cargo in and it subsequently had seats added to diversify it to carry passengers. The Passenger Van was born. School busses were always intended to carry people. In my little world a VW is a bus until all the PASSENGER seats are removed to carry cargo. Then it's a VW van. |
so you sit on the floor when you drive a van, unless youre a midget, then I suppose you can stand when driving, but either way it would be awkward. visibility out the windows would be poor if sitting on the floor! |
There, fixed it for you!
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oprn
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus or VW Van |
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I do not ever recall it being advertised as a Station Wagon in Canada. Or a Kombi for that matter.
And I do go back at least as far as some here, probably further back than most. |
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VWAdam
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus or VW Van |
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Just don't call it a Bug. I hate when someone tells me they like my "Bug" and I'm driving my Bus.
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babysnakes
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus or VW Van |
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| EverettB wrote: |
| babysnakes wrote: |
| pondoras box wrote: |
You all got it wrong VW called them station wagons!
Just thought I would throw a little fuel on this fire. |
I think they were only called station wagons in the US for marketing purposes to dance around the chicken tax. I could be wrong. |
I think it was to compete against US-made station wagons as that was their target buyer in a lot of cases |
From Wikipedia, "The Chicken Tax directly curtailed importation of German-built Volkswagen Type 2s in configurations that qualified them as light trucks, that is, commercial vans and pickups.[15]
In 1964, U.S. imports of "automobile trucks" from West Germany declined to a value of US$5.7 million—about one-third the value imported in the previous year. Soon after, Volkswagen cargo vans and pickup trucks, the intended targets, "practically disappeared from the U.S. market."
Since Bus and Van are are a commercial term, the switch to station wagon would make sense. |
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EverettB
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus or VW Van |
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What you posted is true but they used the term Station Wagon before 1964.
One earlier ad, I think this 1960:
I'm not sure that law ever applied to passenger vehicles but I don't know if VW had to do anything to get around it for their passenger "Station Wagons" versus Commercial Vehicles.
There is definitely no shortage of 1964-67 Standard and Deluxe Buses in the USA.
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mukluk
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:01 pm Post subject: Re: VW Bus or VW Van |
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Here's one from an August 1958 US brochure:
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| Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:40 am Post subject: Re: VW Bus or VW Van |
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Here's one from an August 1958 US brochure:
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I like the idea of the local policeman loading your luggage.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:08 am Post subject: Re: VW Bus or VW Van |
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| Looks to me like valet or door man at a finer hotel. Notice the family is well dressed. Harkens back to a time when people took pride in appearance, even June Cleaver wore a pearl necklace to do housework , and gas station attendants wore spiffy looking uniforms or maybe it is a cop searching their luggage for dope. |
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