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Vanagon Nut Samba Member

Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 9455 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: 1981 (@wileythewesty) TDI conversion, from ground up |
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Thanks. Bear in mind though that given my foray today into auto tranny Sinka's, any rep I had is now tarnished. So, take my measurements for what they're worth. LOL. Actually, I took care line up the clutch housing faces for those pics so measurements are fairly accurate.
If you ever go to a WBX tranny, but keep engine at air cooled position, some pics of how I adapted the WBX tranny to air cooled engine position. Flipped mount idea was courtesy of ?Waldo?. Rereading my notes, I would've done things differently and better but this was first time at this with beginner level fabricating skills so.....
https://goo.gl/photos/GXTagUdjdekict8R7
Even with removed material, mount is still fine afaik. e.g. no cracking.
Neil. _________________ 1981 Westy air cooled to 15º ABA swap: http://tinyurl.com/y9n4xob8
50º ABA Swap in to '88 Westy: http://tinyurl.com/yap5hpwt
Vanagon VAG GAS engine swap Google Group:
https://tinyurl.com/2f24rmh
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member

Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 8894 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: 1981 (@wileythewesty) TDI conversion, from ground up |
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I think it would be a much better idea to move the engine/aircooled tranny rearward to the wbx position now. Less work overall for the long term.
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member

Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 11007 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: 1981 (@wileythewesty) TDI conversion, from ground up |
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It will give easier access to the clutch slave and starter. This is especially true if you delete the firewall. _________________ Casey--
Volkswagens powered by Volkswagen
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender VR6 -->2.5 TDI Syncro?
Oly Bulli
'87 300TD OM606 7mm Myna pump and HX30 |
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charleslabri Samba Member

Joined: December 08, 2019 Posts: 335 Location: South Lake Tahoe
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: 1981 (@wileythewesty) TDI conversion, from ground up |
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I cut the firewall out a few weeks ago _________________ -------------------------------------------------
An example of my slave labor in action:
https://www.instagram.com/wileythewesty/ |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member

Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 11007 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: 1981 (@wileythewesty) TDI conversion, from ground up |
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When Mark tells you some tips to make your project move forward, it carries a whole lot more weight than my meager suggestions. He's probably forgotten more than I'll ever know about these vans. I strongly suggest you follow his recommendations. _________________ Casey--
Volkswagens powered by Volkswagen
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender VR6 -->2.5 TDI Syncro?
Oly Bulli
'87 300TD OM606 7mm Myna pump and HX30 |
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charleslabri Samba Member

Joined: December 08, 2019 Posts: 335 Location: South Lake Tahoe
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:57 am Post subject: Re: 1981 (@wileythewesty) TDI conversion, from ground up |
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Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
When Mark tells you some tips to make your project move forward, it carries a whole lot more weight than my meager suggestions. He's probably forgotten more than I'll ever know about these vans. I strongly suggest you follow his recommendations. |
Referring to marks comment about the CVs?
Currently if I extend Greg’s brackets (which do not work for aircooled tranny position) I keep everything bone stock.
If I modify the trans location to be more like a wbx and fit Greg’s mounts, I end up changing 1) trans mount 2) shift linkage 3) CV angle 4) clutch slave position.
Seems a no brainier to keep stock locations and modify Greg’s mounts.
After being pretty active on the forum here for about a year, I agree... mark is def weighted in his knowledge of vans. A legend _________________ -------------------------------------------------
An example of my slave labor in action:
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member

Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 11007 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:26 am Post subject: Re: 1981 (@wileythewesty) TDI conversion, from ground up |
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One other thought is that the 091 trans was only available here for around 2.5 years, so they're kinda rare. They're also a bit weaker than the 091/1. Your new engine produces monster level torque, so if you grenade your current trans in the future, it might be difficult to locate a similar unit as opposed to the stronger and more readily available 091/1. If you move the trans mount now, you'll be able to swap in any trans, including a five speed 094. Options.
Btw: regarding the CV angle, with the drivetrain shifted rearward my axles are now a straight run to the hubs, rather than angled forward as they were in the aircooled donor van. _________________ Casey--
Volkswagens powered by Volkswagen
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender VR6 -->2.5 TDI Syncro?
Oly Bulli
'87 300TD OM606 7mm Myna pump and HX30 |
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charleslabri Samba Member

Joined: December 08, 2019 Posts: 335 Location: South Lake Tahoe
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:27 am Post subject: Re: 1981 (@wileythewesty) TDI conversion, from ground up |
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Ive thought about this.. i did some serious beefing already to the 091 trans.
My plan is that if the trans grenades, likely ill just turn my ride into a syncro. _________________ -------------------------------------------------
An example of my slave labor in action:
https://www.instagram.com/wileythewesty/ |
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?Waldo? Samba Member

Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 8740 Location: Where?
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: 1981 (@wileythewesty) TDI conversion, from ground up |
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charleslabri wrote: |
My plan is that if the trans grenades, likely ill just turn my ride into a syncro. |
In that case you will need to move the engine rearward to the later position. |
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pjn_wyo Samba Member
Joined: April 22, 2019 Posts: 108 Location: Bellingham, WA
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: 1981 (@wileythewesty) TDI conversion, from ground up |
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charleslabri wrote: |
Ive thought about this.. i did some serious beefing already to the 091 trans.
My plan is that if the trans grenades, likely ill just turn my ride into a syncro. |
Want to buy some parts? |
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charleslabri Samba Member

Joined: December 08, 2019 Posts: 335 Location: South Lake Tahoe
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: 1981 (@wileythewesty) TDI conversion, from ground up |
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?Waldo? wrote: |
charleslabri wrote: |
My plan is that if the trans grenades, likely ill just turn my ride into a syncro. |
In that case you will need to move the engine rearward to the later position. |
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An example of my slave labor in action:
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charleslabri Samba Member

Joined: December 08, 2019 Posts: 335 Location: South Lake Tahoe
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: 1981 (@wileythewesty) TDI conversion, from ground up |
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pjn_wyo wrote: |
charleslabri wrote: |
Ive thought about this.. i did some serious beefing already to the 091 trans.
My plan is that if the trans grenades, likely ill just turn my ride into a syncro. |
Want to buy some parts? |
if i had anywhere reasonable to store syncro parts, id say yes. But r/n i dont ;( _________________ -------------------------------------------------
An example of my slave labor in action:
https://www.instagram.com/wileythewesty/ |
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