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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:50 am    Post subject: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

My 64 deluxe is almost ready to be fully registered (currently registered as ďnon-operableĒ) and get on the road. That being said, I use a 5 gallon gas tank to put gas into the bus. Yesterday I went to put more gas in the bus and was tilting the gas can when all of the sudden the plastic nozzle from the can slid off and disappeared down into the gas tank! Sad So, my question: any ideas how to retrieve that nozzle without removing the engine and tank??? I ordered a 3 foot long ďretrieval toolĒ from Amazon that has a claw like end. Maybe I will get lucky? Has this ever happened to anyone else? Do I just leave it for now?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:21 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

I don't think it will hurt should it stay in there.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:33 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

mdege wrote:
I don't think it will hurt should it stay in there.

Ya, I agree, but just the fact that itís in there!! Maybe the retrieval tool will work Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:54 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

mdege wrote:
I don't think it will hurt should it stay in there.


I second this, but I probably would like to get this thing out there, too!

Just having the knowledge of a piranha swimming in the tank would drive me insane!

Maybe try with an endoscope?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:14 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

Tizian wrote:
mdege wrote:
I don't think it will hurt should it stay in there.


I second this, but I probably would like to get this thing out there, too!

Just having the knowledge of a piranha swimming in the tank would drive me insane!

Maybe try with an endoscope?


Funny, I actually looked at endoscopes last night. They are ok for water, but now sure how it would do with gasoline.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

fill the tank completely and pluck it off the top when it floats to the top of the filler neck.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:44 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

Lind wrote:
fill the tank completely and pluck it off the top when it floats to the top of the filler neck.


Oooh, good idea! Thanks Lind!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

Or... if you canít fish it out, live with it until the next time the engine has to come out, then empty and pull the tank off. Confused


You know the engine WILL have to come out again at some point! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

pyrOman wrote:
Or... if you canít fish it out, live with it until the next time the engine has to come out, then empty and pull the tank off. Confused


You know the engine WILL have to come out again at some point! Laughing

Oh God, I hope not!!! Itís a brand new engine and gas tank Rolling Eyes But youíre right, someday it will come out!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

Following on Lind's idea, I'd suggest jacking the car up on the passenger side so the filler-end of the tank is raised. (or park sideways on a steep hill or something) This way the cap, if it floats, will hopefully have an easier path to the top.

Good luck. You'll get it.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

Wade wrote:
Following on Lind's idea, I'd suggest jacking the car up on the passenger side so the filler-end of the tank is raised. (or park sideways on a steep hill or something) This way the cap, if it floats, will hopefully have an easier path to the top.

Good luck. You'll get it.

-Greg

Another great idea! Iím feeling confident I might snag that nozzle out of the tank! My retrieval tool will arrive today:)
Thanks man!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:22 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

Keep us posted on how you make out lol. I feel for you though!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:31 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

1970PAKombi wrote:
Keep us posted on how you make out lol. I feel for you though!


Haha, will do!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:06 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

I'd try as Lind mentioned.... Then I'd probably end up pulling the whole lot apart. Shocked haha

But if i could give myself advice i'd just leave it until you do pull the engine out. It'll be fine, Its just a bit of plastic it cant do any harm.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:00 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

When I pulled the gas tank on my bus, I found a metal fuel spout from an old time gas pump in it. Who knows how long it had been in there, but it didn't effect anything negatively. If you can get it out, great, if not, don't worry about it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:52 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

All I ever found in my tank is rust.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

BIG_TEXAS_PETE wrote:
I'd try as Lind mentioned.... Then I'd probably end up pulling the whole lot apart. Shocked haha

But if i could give myself advice i'd just leave it until you do pull the engine out. It'll be fine, Its just a bit of plastic it cant do any harm.


Good to know, but Iím still going to try to get it out!😜
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

Braukuche wrote:
All I ever found in my tank is rust.


Right??!!!😬
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

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When I pulled the gas tank on my bus, I found a metal fuel spout from an old time gas pump in it. Who knows how long it had been in there, but it didn't effect anything negatively. If you can get it out, great, if not, don't worry about it.


That makes me feel better, thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: There it goes, right down into the gas tank! Reply with quote

Somebody mentioned endoscopes? I've bought one of the cheapo ones that plugs into a phone. They do work, but very difficult to orient the image to understand what you are seeing.
Much nicer are the dedicated ones from Milwaukee, Dewalt, Makita, ETC. If you already have one of these systems and don't need the battery or charger, it is a pretty nice tool and you would likely find other uses for it.
If you have a friend that is an electrical or plumbing contractor, likely you could borrow one for an evening.
I don't think you will want it submerged in petrol, so you should plan on draining the tank before you go fishing.
Having a camera makes it easier.
Not sure that an old splitty tank has baffles. Later 1975 up Bay tanks do, tho.
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