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Clatter
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Here we go again!
This time it’s a 5-speed for my man Brent.
Really glad to even start helping out a guy who’s styled me out so many times.
This one should be some good fun.
Some nice stuff to play with!
Looking forward to input from the wise masters here,
Went to Phoenix and picked up some stuff.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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ooooooh yes, Brent ya lucky bastid! watching this one closely 
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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yes, also watching this one!
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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How about some specs?
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Root_Werks
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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I would like to know the specs as well, gears, R&P etc.
I had a Berg 5spd built and didn't provide input as a customer to what I wanted out of gears = not very happy with the 5spd. I'm going to pull it and have 2nd - 5th replaced.
-Dan
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Glenn
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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I had a Berg 5spd built and didn't provide input as a customer to what I wanted out of gears
-Dan |
I had the opposite, we spoke about my engine, tire size, driving style and terrain.
Very happy with the end product.
A Berg 5 is a "custom" build, the customer should be involved.
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Root_Werks
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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| Glenn wrote: |
| Root_Werks wrote: |
I had a Berg 5spd built and didn't provide input as a customer to what I wanted out of gears
-Dan |
I had the opposite, we spoke about my engine, tire size, driving style and terrain.
Very happy with the end product.
A Berg 5 is a "custom" build, the customer should be involved. |
Yup, sometimes I'll bolt and engine back into a Bug and see the T/O Bearing clip on the ground or just finish torqueing the heads and notice the CHT threaded hole is on the wrong side. Or worse, forget to involve myself when a tranny is built.
Hopefully some fun pics will show up on this thread.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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Clatter
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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Oh Yeah…
We got some baller shit on the bench these days.
Peloquin diff, ARP ring gear bolts:
Anybody know the correct procedure for these bolts?
ARP lube? Lock-Tite? Torque?
300M torsional input shaft:
This one’s gonna be SwEET!
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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| Root_Werks wrote: |
I would like to know the specs as well, gears, R&P etc.
I had a Berg 5spd built and didn't provide input as a customer to what I wanted out of gears = not very happy with the 5spd. I'm going to pull it and have 2nd - 5th replaced.
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Dan,
Takes a real man to be humble and admit his mistakes.
Perhaps you would be willing to share details?
Brent’s car is a street-driven convertible Ghia.
It’s going to have a big turbo motor, 2275 or 2332 or so.
Right now, we definitely have a 3.88 ring n’ pinion,
And, for now, a “super beetle” 3.78/2.06 mainshaft.
Here, we have an 091 idler for first,
But Brent has already started thinking about an aftermarket mainshaft.
3.75/2.25/1.56/1.13/.82 has been thrown out there…
But, the 3.78/2.06/1.48/1.14 1-4 is a very popular tight 4-speed box,
And we can just add our favorite 5th - say .089 to keep the fan spinning?
Too many choices!
Your real experience is very much appreciated.
If we can learn from your mistakes we can save ourselves another build! 🤪
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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| Glenn wrote: |
| Root_Werks wrote: |
I had a Berg 5spd built and didn't provide input as a customer to what I wanted out of gears
-Dan |
I had the opposite, we spoke about my engine, tire size, driving style and terrain.
Very happy with the end product.
A Berg 5 is a "custom" build, the customer should be involved. |
Dag,
Your article in HotVWs with the ultimate worked Berg Box was all time.
Can’t seem to find it anywhere..!
Got a link or details?
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Clatter
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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Nice! Much thanks my man.
Didn’t you have a link to your article?
Coulda sworn i saw a copy of that online..
Oiling tricks are key with these, right?
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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Since the ring n’ pinion is for sure a 3.88…
A Gleason in good shape to match the pinion.
Was looking a bit rusty from years of storage:
Turns out it just wiped off.
Managed to find the diamond Dremel bits shown me by the great Paul Guard:
Did a de-burring on the ring n’ pinion.
Stay away from the contact surfaces!
Finished up with a heavy glass-bead session.
De-burr the de-burring!
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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YEAH!
Much thanks my brother.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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Case for this one is a “shift rib”.
Brent had it vapor-blasted.
Shot it with some epoxy primer after a good cleaning:
Hot Rod Black:
Followed by a Spellbinder from Wren House:
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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After a couple days’ drying the inside got scrubbed out with some Simple Green and a brush.
Then rinsed and rinsed to get all the leftover blasting grit from inside.
Big heavy billet cover arrived:
And here’s the look Brent is after for this one:
Kind of a two-tone;
No mistaking the 5-speed part.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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Did you add a 2nd vent above the diff?
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Brent
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: Brent’s Berg5 |
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Steve's just trying to get me back on here and post again... lol. Bought a new house and moved, retired from the Navy (5 years ago already), new job, blah blah blah. And I have a diesel truck fascination.
I've been saving all this stuff for probably 10 years.
This is getting me going though. Ghia build will start next year.
Steve - you got some parts coming in a week or so.
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