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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:58 am    Post subject: Bus shifter lock Reply with quote

i have seen the wasco and sperrwolf shifter locks for beetles listed in the classifieds- were there shift locks for ealry buses? or were only steering column locks offered?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: bus shifter lock Reply with quote

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i have seen the wasco and sperrwolf shifter locks for beetles listed in the classifieds- were there shift locks for ealry buses? or were only steering column locks offered?


Good question. I think WW sells them for split buses. I think they use the same lock as '68 up type 1s...at least I hope so, as I have one sitting in my garage. I just wonder how well they work, or if they cause problems with the shifting pattern. Bus shifters are problamatic enough as it is.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've wondered if this is the real deal before. Hard to imagine it's still for sale if it's not...

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=157693

I've bought stuff from him before, he's a nice guy.

hth

On a quasi-related note, anyone know the value of the '62 and later steering column locks? I sold the bus mine was going on and my prospects of owning another one that needs it are slim...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i saw those shifter locks- i guess my problem with them and the WBW version is they look cheap- (not that they are) just saying the overall look compared to the wasco- looks bad. IMHO
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how about those?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/EMPI-4457-VW-BUG-BUS-SHIFTER-LO...dZViewItem
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to cut your mat to instal those as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You have to cut your mat to instal those as well.


Good point. I have one of the Wolfsburg West ones. I like it and it doesn't change the shift pattern or throw at all. But you do have to cut. Or you can Slice your mat at the top and bottom of the locking shifter base so hopefully somewhere down the line the a new owner of the bus can uninstall it if they want and the mat will only be sliced and not cut.

In my case it really didn't matter. my original mate was torn to shreads and since I have a '67 the replacement mat I have over the original now has the cut out for the high beem switch for a '66 and earlier bus.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cut the mat and a spacer if it's not included.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from a 4/66 accessory catalog.
the bus specific part number is the same # in the late 50's accessry catalog i have.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a WW one for my '67 and am quite pleased. Yes, the mat must be cut and you need the plate for the bottom. Another thing to bear in mind is that the WW ones lock in neutral, while OG ones locked in reverse. but with the bus locked in neutral and the e-brake on its gonna take a determined mofo to obscond with my bus. And as far as shifting goes I have heard it both ways, I personally prefer how my bus shifts WITH the lock.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one but took it out- I didn't like how it shifted.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive got a bus specific waso. It has longer flanges on the bottom than the beetle one. Theres was also a spacer available for beetle wasos so you could use them in a bus. (Ill post pics later)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sperrwolf Shifter Locks

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=161455

the new units are just the evolution of the old units, and not all that much different from the mid '60s sperrwolf. the only differences between the beetle and bus units is that you have to use a spacer under it for buses. the spacer is the same height as a spacer for a quickshift kit. also, the hole in the sliding plate for the shift rod to go through is larger on bus units.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: shift lock Reply with quote

I had one of those black ones and it broke. The housing was a cheap casting. I hope that they are making them better nowadays. If not, lets hope that a thief won't know enough to whack the base on the side with a hammer and fracture it to bits.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amg3 wrote:
but with the bus locked in neutral and the e-brake on its gonna take a determined mofo to obscond with my bus.


i hope you don't actually believe that.
ebrakes can be disabled in less than 10 seconds, and if in neutral, the bus could be rolled away to an awaiting truck, or towbarred.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lind wrote:
Sperrwolf Shifter Locks

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=161455

the new units are just the evolution of the old units, and not all that much different from the mid '60s sperrwolf. the only differences between the beetle and bus units is that you have to use a spacer under it for buses. the spacer is the same height as a spacer for a quickshift kit. also, the hole in the sliding plate for the shift rod to go through is larger on bus units.


so-a beetle unit will work? abet the space and the shifter hole?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I realize this is an ancient thread, but figured I would note that since this was written the Wolfsburg West versions has been changed and can be locked in Reverse as well as neutral. Going to install mine later today. Will update post with any pertinent experiences.

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I have a WW one for my '67 and am quite pleased. Yes, the mat must be cut and you need the plate for the bottom. Another thing to bear in mind is that the WW ones lock in neutral, while OG ones locked in reverse. but with the bus locked in neutral and the e-brake on its gonna take a determined mofo to obscond with my bus. And as far as shifting goes I have heard it both ways, I personally prefer how my bus shifts WITH the lock.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like these. They dont really hinder the shifting if set up correctly. That's really good info that WW's new ones can lock in reverse, mine locks in nuetral and that always bothered me. I had mine re-keyed to use some old school NOS keys that look good on the keychain!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How easy was it to get rekeyed? The keys that came with mine are kind of funky, only being cut on one side.

Also, what kind of lube did you put in your's when assembling? I couldn't find anything around the house and am going to end up buying something new.

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I like these. They dont really hinder the shifting if set up correctly. That's really good info that WW's new ones can lock in reverse, mine locks in nuetral and that always bothered me. I had mine re-keyed to use some old school NOS keys that look good on the keychain!…

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont recall what kind of lube I used but you can always default to a nice lithium based grease. PM Clara and ask her.

For rekeying I popped out the lock and sent it to Gabriel since he also had the keys. It really feels good to have the old style keys on the keyring. Worth the expense.
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