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mynameismud Samba Member

Joined: October 23, 2002 Posts: 5937 Location: Middle of a corn field
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: Bus shifter lock |
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i have seen the wasco and sperrwolf shifter locks for beetles listed in the classifieds- were there shift locks for ealry buses? or were only steering column locks offered? _________________ Even YOU can prevent FIRES!
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Braukuche Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: bus shifter lock |
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| mynameismud wrote: |
| i have seen the wasco and sperrwolf shifter locks for beetles listed in the classifieds- were there shift locks for ealry buses? or were only steering column locks offered? |
Good question. I think WW sells them for split buses. I think they use the same lock as '68 up type 1s...at least I hope so, as I have one sitting in my garage. I just wonder how well they work, or if they cause problems with the shifting pattern. Bus shifters are problamatic enough as it is.
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dieselnut Samba Member

Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 1510 Location: Lurking...
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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I've wondered if this is the real deal before. Hard to imagine it's still for sale if it's not...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=157693
I've bought stuff from him before, he's a nice guy.
hth
On a quasi-related note, anyone know the value of the '62 and later steering column locks? I sold the bus mine was going on and my prospects of owning another one that needs it are slim... |
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mynameismud Samba Member

Joined: October 23, 2002 Posts: 5937 Location: Middle of a corn field
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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i saw those shifter locks- i guess my problem with them and the WBW version is they look cheap- (not that they are) just saying the overall look compared to the wasco- looks bad. IMHO _________________ Even YOU can prevent FIRES!
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Enkiel Samba Member

Joined: October 21, 2004 Posts: 2771 Location: Quebec, Canada
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crofty Judas of the North

Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19925 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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You have to cut your mat to instal those as well. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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TimB Samba Member

Joined: August 04, 2003 Posts: 1740 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| crofty wrote: |
| You have to cut your mat to instal those as well. |
Good point. I have one of the Wolfsburg West ones. I like it and it doesn't change the shift pattern or throw at all. But you do have to cut. Or you can Slice your mat at the top and bottom of the locking shifter base so hopefully somewhere down the line the a new owner of the bus can uninstall it if they want and the mat will only be sliced and not cut.
In my case it really didn't matter. my original mate was torn to shreads and since I have a '67 the replacement mat I have over the original now has the cut out for the high beem switch for a '66 and earlier bus. _________________ '62 Rag Top Bug
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DubStyle SBS Hit Squad

Joined: July 26, 2003 Posts: 6249 Location: SBS headquarters: Missery
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Cut the mat and a spacer if it's not included. _________________ Anthony
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hazetguy Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2001 Posts: 10804 Location: the past
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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from a 4/66 accessory catalog.
the bus specific part number is the same # in the late 50's accessry catalog i have.
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amg3 Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2005 Posts: 98 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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I have a WW one for my '67 and am quite pleased. Yes, the mat must be cut and you need the plate for the bottom. Another thing to bear in mind is that the WW ones lock in neutral, while OG ones locked in reverse. but with the bus locked in neutral and the e-brake on its gonna take a determined mofo to obscond with my bus. And as far as shifting goes I have heard it both ways, I personally prefer how my bus shifts WITH the lock. _________________ '67 Riviera |
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crofty Judas of the North

Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19925 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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I had one but took it out- I didn't like how it shifted. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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zimblewinder Samba Member

Joined: January 22, 2004 Posts: 900 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Ive got a bus specific waso. It has longer flanges on the bottom than the beetle one. Theres was also a spacer available for beetle wasos so you could use them in a bus. (Ill post pics later) _________________ 58Euro 23 343208 The Ultimate Zimblewinder Machine.
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Lind Samba Member

Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 10282 Location: idaho
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Sperrwolf Shifter Locks
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=161455
the new units are just the evolution of the old units, and not all that much different from the mid '60s sperrwolf. the only differences between the beetle and bus units is that you have to use a spacer under it for buses. the spacer is the same height as a spacer for a quickshift kit. also, the hole in the sliding plate for the shift rod to go through is larger on bus units. _________________ .
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Daddybus Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:55 pm Post subject: shift lock |
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| I had one of those black ones and it broke. The housing was a cheap casting. I hope that they are making them better nowadays. If not, lets hope that a thief won't know enough to whack the base on the side with a hammer and fracture it to bits. |
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hazetguy Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| amg3 wrote: |
| but with the bus locked in neutral and the e-brake on its gonna take a determined mofo to obscond with my bus. |
i hope you don't actually believe that.
ebrakes can be disabled in less than 10 seconds, and if in neutral, the bus could be rolled away to an awaiting truck, or towbarred. |
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mynameismud Samba Member

Joined: October 23, 2002 Posts: 5937 Location: Middle of a corn field
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Lind wrote: |
Sperrwolf Shifter Locks
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=161455
the new units are just the evolution of the old units, and not all that much different from the mid '60s sperrwolf. the only differences between the beetle and bus units is that you have to use a spacer under it for buses. the spacer is the same height as a spacer for a quickshift kit. also, the hole in the sliding plate for the shift rod to go through is larger on bus units. |
so-a beetle unit will work? abet the space and the shifter hole? _________________ Even YOU can prevent FIRES!
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Robertjm Samba Member

Joined: May 22, 2011 Posts: 261 Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:09 am Post subject: |
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I realize this is an ancient thread, but figured I would note that since this was written the Wolfsburg West versions has been changed and can be locked in Reverse as well as neutral. Going to install mine later today. Will update post with any pertinent experiences.
Robert
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| I have a WW one for my '67 and am quite pleased. Yes, the mat must be cut and you need the plate for the bottom. Another thing to bear in mind is that the WW ones lock in neutral, while OG ones locked in reverse. but with the bus locked in neutral and the e-brake on its gonna take a determined mofo to obscond with my bus. And as far as shifting goes I have heard it both ways, I personally prefer how my bus shifts WITH the lock. |
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Kevin T Samba Member
Joined: February 06, 2006 Posts: 123 Location: Sandwich Islands
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:00 am Post subject: |
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I like these. They dont really hinder the shifting if set up correctly. That's really good info that WW's new ones can lock in reverse, mine locks in nuetral and that always bothered me. I had mine re-keyed to use some old school NOS keys that look good on the keychain!
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Robertjm Samba Member

Joined: May 22, 2011 Posts: 261 Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:09 am Post subject: |
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How easy was it to get rekeyed? The keys that came with mine are kind of funky, only being cut on one side.
Also, what kind of lube did you put in your's when assembling? I couldn't find anything around the house and am going to end up buying something new.
Robert
| Kevin T wrote: |
I like these. They dont really hinder the shifting if set up correctly. That's really good info that WW's new ones can lock in reverse, mine locks in nuetral and that always bothered me. I had mine re-keyed to use some old school NOS keys that look good on the keychain!…
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Kevin T Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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I dont recall what kind of lube I used but you can always default to a nice lithium based grease. PM Clara and ask her.
For rekeying I popped out the lock and sent it to Gabriel since he also had the keys. It really feels good to have the old style keys on the keyring. Worth the expense. |
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