| Ownership Plans within 2026 |
| I/We are planning on maintaining our present ownership of a bay within the next year |
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84% |
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| I/We are planning on selling our bay and leaving the community within the next year |
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4% |
[ 3 ] |
| I/We are considering a new, additional, or replacement bay within the next year |
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10% |
[ 7 ] |
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Xevin  Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 9076
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Informal Poll |
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Kids or cars. Make good choices that one can support properly and not be a burden to others. I’m not a parent to a human (that i know of, Heyooo! )
From the internet:
“Children are not an investment in the traditional financial sense, but rather a "labor of love" and a significant personal and emotional commitment. While they require a substantial investment of time, energy, and money, this is generally given without the expectation of a financial return.”
Like a classic VW but with more responsibility. _________________ Keep on Busin'
| 67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
| Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin...  |
| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
| SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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ALLWAGONS Samba Member

Joined: June 03, 2000 Posts: 4735 Location: Pasadena CA/DTLA soon China
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Informal Poll |
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We are going off topic here. The pill says who’s keeping, who’s selling or who’s planning to buy.
We all know there are some people out there that don’t know how to manage money. _________________ I'd be UNSTOPPABLE if not for Law Enforcement and PHYSICS.
I recycle old cars and parts, other than when I rot, that's as Green as I am going to get.
Thanks to my Tesla driving neighbors, I feel more relaxed driving my SUBURBAN and old VW's.
Everything sounds good on paper! |
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 42955 Location: at the beach in Northern Wokistan
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Informal Poll |
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As of Today December 17, 2025 the count is
84% (49) Who are planning on maintaining their present ownership in 2026
5% (3) who are planning to sell and leave the bus community in 2026
10% (6) who are considering a new, additional or replacement bus in 2026
Personally I think that shows a pretty stable market, at least here on the Samba. Now for the whole world of people who don't come here, I can't say, but to me that looks like this is a good time to keep ones bus. The market is stable, not crash diving, and not rising. Not many buyers but certainly there are people looking for a bus in the right condition at the right price. To me, this is a pretty positive response. _________________
Canned Water - the new California approved parts cleaner (except in a drought in which case rub it with sand).
George Carlin:
"Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it."
Skills@EuroCarsPlus:
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli

Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 13361 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Informal Poll |
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I mean, if we're really going to be honest here every dollar we put into this shit is a dollar lost but you have to do something for fun (within reason) |
This is the only part that post that I disagree with, the few thousand that I put into my VWs to purchase & resurrect them & then $200-500 per year in maintenance easily saves many thousands of dollars compared to a modern vehicle, especially if one were to finance it. But I only make them dependable drivers, and then put 30,000+ a year on them. No trailer queens here. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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dodger tom  Samba Member

Joined: March 25, 2013 Posts: 2069 Location: Central Coast, CA, but we're all still Ukrainian and Californian
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Informal Poll |
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steve, while i voted (to keep, of course), i didn’t comment.
i’ve owned four buses (including a ‘62 27-window) and two karmann ghias (including a ‘66 convertible). i’ve owned the ‘79 ce2 since 1991, and will have it to the end.
if i had the financial wherewithal, i’d own another ghia (or an ac 912 or 911). maybe a single cab. but, don’t expect either.
i’ll happily keep the ce2 going, and enjoy it to its highest purpose as my home-away-from-home. it isn’t an investment. it’s family. _________________ 1978 Champaign Edition 2 Westfalia
Would never find the time to keep up another classic air-cooled. |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead

Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 17966 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Informal Poll |
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| TDCTDI wrote: |
| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I mean, if we're really going to be honest here every dollar we put into this shit is a dollar lost but you have to do something for fun (within reason) |
This is the only part that post that I disagree with, the few thousand that I put into my VWs to purchase & resurrect them & then $200-500 per year in maintenance easily saves many thousands of dollars compared to a modern vehicle, especially if one were to finance it. But I only make them dependable drivers, and then put 30,000+ a year on them. No trailer queens here. |
If you're daily driving them, then for sure it's money "saved" if you will. dropping 5k into something you get years out of always makes sense.
Steve, interesting numbers but asking that question here would skew the numbers I think.
scroll down, but click recently closed 48 went up for sale just this month, not all sold and I don't feel like digging for a ton of stats.
https://bringatrailer.com/volkswagen/
I don't know... the prices have come back to reality (mostly) on a lot of this stuff so who knows _________________
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
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| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
| Brian wrote: |
| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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Rag00oll Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2012 Posts: 220 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2025 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: Informal Poll |
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In my personal experience for every one person I’ve seen “leave” the hobby. One or two new people join. And someone who is in it, like myself, gets a new project or an already nice driver. While I agree the forums and project threads aren’t as busy as 10+ years ago on here I think that’s more because a lot of people seem to be using facebook. All the vw facebook pages im on are constantly busy. Though half the advice given there needs thrown in the trash and the other 25% are people just being mean.
Im keeping my 68. Got a whole bunch of stuff I want to fix this upcoming year and drive it as much as possible!
I was going to pull my engine and gas tank for the winter to get to my fuel sender but there’s the potential of some driving weather coming up again provided the rain comes first to wash the salt. |
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OB Bus Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2003 Posts: 2790 Location: Ocean Beach - San Diego
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2025 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: Informal Poll |
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| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I mean, if we're really going to be honest here every dollar we put into this shit is a dollar lost but you have to do something for fun (within reason) |
See Skilz, yet another time I agree with you completely.
If you are in it to make money that likely is a fools errand.
Be in the game to have fun, relive your youth and to save a vintage car.
We have had our bus for over 20 years and we will keep it until I can no longer work the clutch. Neuropathy. It can cause you to lose feeling and control of your feet.
Years ago we co-invested with my sister and her husband leasing a lot near Ensenada Mexico. Before we got started I tried to get them to realize that every dollar we put into it was gone. We would get our investment back through our enjoyment of the place.
We liked going there. Our kids spent many summer weeks there with their Uncle and Aunt. My sister and spouse basically moved there for many years after retiring. At one point they bought out our interest.
15 years later they both passed and their son had to sell the property. At that point the legal status of the property was in serious jeopardy. He got out of it but received exactly $0 for it. Yes, nothing.
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. _________________ Larry in OB
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery!
69 Westfalia and 2002 Eurovan Camper.
People deserve the Government they voted for. |
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richparker Samba Member

Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 7778 Location: Durango, CO
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Xevin  Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 9076
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 7:48 am Post subject: Re: Informal Poll |
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| At the end of the day they are valuable. May not be worth as much as the owner thinks, but they are still worth money. |
Many people take vacations each year that cost more than my first camper. I have friends who spend an ass ton of money on golf trips and guided fishing trips. I’ve spent lots of money on boujee vacations over the years and came home with nothing but memories. Still do. Only now a lot of our vacations and memories are made in our VW campers. Even with all the cost involved with old VW campers I’ve probably saved money by scaling back the vacation budget.
I never think of a car as an investment but man they are fun. _________________ Keep on Busin'
| 67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
| Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin...  |
| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
| SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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Buggeee Samba Member

Joined: December 22, 2016 Posts: 5016 Location: Stuck in Ohio
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 8:12 am Post subject: Re: Informal Poll |
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I've never tried to make money on my VWs, but I've never lost money either. I've always gotten the money out that went in. Every penny. But I do the labor myself.
My time, however, endless hours of researching, installing parts, gaining and exercising new skills... all that goes unaccounted for and uncompensated as far as cold cash is concerned. For me, fulfilling dreams, satisfying curiosity and having a healthy way to spend my personal time is priceless. In that way, the money is working for me while it sits, insured, in the VW. Like a savings account that I can drive around.
And when it comes time to make the withdrawal, I have been able to step right out of it for what I've got in it, quick, because it does not have to be top of the market for a simple withdrawal. Just like a stop at the credit union to cash out a CD.
I would have a real hard time making this passion into a business as I work slow and in spurts as the mood hits or spare time allows. It has kept me off the couch, however, and a very fun way to have a savings account. _________________ Big Time 1988 Vanagon Westy
Release the Krankenwagen! 1966 Sportsmobile Camper
Dr. Kompressor 72 Super Duper
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Xevin  Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 9076
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Informal Poll |
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Always liked your style Buggeee  _________________ Keep on Busin'
| 67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
| Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin...  |
| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
| SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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Bobs67vwagen Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2005 Posts: 952 Location: Eastern north carolina
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Informal Poll |
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| Bungee sums up the VW hobby as I have always found it to be. I always had a bug or a bus or ghia that I would work on, repair, drive and enjoy for a while and then sell it and move on to the next one. I did this over a 25 year period starting in the 1970s. They were always an easy sell and I usually made money but I did it because I enjoyed it and another VW that I was enthusiastic about always seemed to turn up. It was enjoyable, always had a bit of a cool factor around it, and felt good to be able to put together a VW that I could drive across country reliably. It is a bit more difficult in today's world with the cars being so much older but still possible with a good bit of hard work. |
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ALLWAGONS Samba Member

Joined: June 03, 2000 Posts: 4735 Location: Pasadena CA/DTLA soon China
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Informal Poll |
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I've never tried to make money on my VWs, but I've never lost money either. I've always gotten the money out that went in. Every penny. But I do the labor myself.
My time, however, endless hours of researching, installing parts, gaining and exercising new skills... all that goes unaccounted for and uncompensated as far as cold cash is concerned. For me, fulfilling dreams, satisfying curiosity and having a healthy way to spend my personal time is priceless. In that way, the money is working for me while it sits, insured, in the VW. Like a savings account that I can drive around.
And when it comes time to make the withdrawal, I have been able to step right out of it for what I've got in it, quick, because it does not have to be top of the market for a simple withdrawal. Just like a stop at the credit union to cash out a CD.
I would have a real hard time making this passion into a business as I work slow and in spurts as the mood hits or spare time allows. It has kept me off the couch, however, and a very fun way to have a savings account. |
Agree with you 100% Sir!
Martin
allwagons _________________ I'd be UNSTOPPABLE if not for Law Enforcement and PHYSICS.
I recycle old cars and parts, other than when I rot, that's as Green as I am going to get.
Thanks to my Tesla driving neighbors, I feel more relaxed driving my SUBURBAN and old VW's.
Everything sounds good on paper! |
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