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		| mrmarcdude Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:38 pm    Post subject: Sealing case and cylinders? |   |  
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				| Hey i was wondering what you guys reccomend to seal the two case halfs? Any feedback on a specific product? What to stay away from? Thanks a lot guys |  | 
	
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		| Glenn  Mr. 010
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Permatex Aviation will work. 
 Never ever use any silicone form-a-gasket.
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		| SeVVenth Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:48 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I use permatex on just about thing that has the possibility of leaking oil.  Make sure to get a decent sized tub, it lasts quite a while.  I had to tear my motor totally apart after I just got it together and I haven't even gone through a 1/5 of the bottle. |  | 
	
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		| TristanM Samba Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:50 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I use to use Permatex Aviation, but on the last few engines went with Curil-T and will be using it from now on. _________________
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		| SeVVenth Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:51 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| ^^Any reason why?^^  Less sticky? |  | 
	
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		| John M. Samba Member
 
 
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		| TristanM Samba Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I just found it easier to work and less messy...but that is just my preference. I also liked the tube over the brush factor. _________________
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		| Glenn  Mr. 010
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Gaskacinch 
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		| The Noof Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Specialty sealers such as Dirko and Yamabond are excellent also.Yamabond is made exclusively for applying to gasketless machined aluminum surfaces.Messy and expensive, but very effective. |  | 
	
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		| wcfvw69 Samba Purist
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:41 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I smell the need for a "sticky"!  |  | 
	
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		| Eaallred Samba Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:34 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Think of it this way. If you have 8 case sealers that all work at keeping the case halves dry, but one of them can be cleaned off easily with a paper towel the next time you have to get in there fix something, which do you think you should choose? 
 That's why I use Curil T.
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		| millerje78 Samba Amishman
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:04 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Yamabond definitely keep the engine from leaking oil out of the ordinary spots.  (oil cooler seals, sump plate, valve covers)  it takes a while to run out of the $8 tube.  you just need to make sure you form a perfect furface of the goo, free of debris or air bubbles.  It is kind of a pain to get off though when doing maintenance. 
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		| steel buggin Samba Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| 1211 bond from Japan works great. |  | 
	
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		| SeVVenth Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:43 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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 You know I looked ALL OVER the damn place for that stuff.  Couldn't find it anywhere around here.
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		| polkaudio Samba Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| That's why I use Curil T.  [/quote] 
 where is this available?
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		| MCT Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:12 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Loctite 515 or 518, Anaerobic Sealer, I use it on everything I do on Airplanes Piston Aircooled engines and used it on my 1600cc and guess what? Nice and dry, no leaks, its good for almost anything that needs to be sealed.
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		| miniman82 Samba Swamp Donkey
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:39 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| One word-Hylomar. http://www.hylomar-usa.com/
 I'm not the spokesperson or anything, but we used this stuff when building jet engines (for the Navy), and I've used it on every engine I build.  It's great becuase if you have to tear something back down, it's a snap to wipe off, and it seals very well.
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		| RockNbus Samba Member
 
  
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		| helowrench Samba Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I use hylomar aero grade for everything.  no drips no leaks no runs. and removal is the easiest with the aerosol remover.
 
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		| GeorgeL Samba Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | One word-Hylomar. http://www.hylomar-usa.com/
 I'm not the spokesperson or anything, but we used this stuff when building jet engines (for the Navy), and I've used it on every engine I build.  It's great becuase if you have to tear something back down, it's a snap to wipe off, and it seals very well.
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 Both of the Mexican VW engines I've purchased came with a bead of Hylomar squeezed out of the case joint.  Neither has leaked in years of use.
 
 Now, if it were just available on the Permatex rack like it used to be...
   
 Do any VW suppliers carry Hylomar?
 
 George
 
 BTW, do not buy this stuff from the Hylomar-USA site listed above.  This stuff is expensive, but $28.50+shipping for a 100g tube is way too much!
 
 http://www.cvproducts.com/cv/products/specItem.aspx?prodID=4771&brandID=94
 http://www.fast-idleautosupply.com/index_files/Page664.htm
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