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mrjobe
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 Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:49 am Post subject: 55' Euro Standard build. Previously "US Standard" |
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I just picked up a L37 med. blue 1955 standard sedan a few days ago thinking that it was too bad it wasnt a deluxe. But after some looking on the internet US Standards seem farly less common then the Deluxes that were basicly the standard here.
I didnt find much on coverage on US standards, and I would really like to know how many of each year came here versus deluxes.
Are they considerbly "rare" here in the US or just not noticed?
Where do can you find parts to repair the cable brakes?
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Bruce
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There's no such thing as a US spec Standard. VWoA didn't import anything less than a Deluxe. What you've got is a private import.
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mrjobe
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So this couldnt have been special ordered in new? are there any other countrys that would use a MPH speedo? mines dated 1.55 which makes me beleave its og to the car.
anyone know where to buy brake parts? what about pan halfs that have the mounts for the wingnut seat hold downs?
any chance for a year to yaer production number on standards?
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billmetric
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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ummm, I have a US Standard '52 Split with VW USA NYC on the birth certif. so yeah they are out there, A friend here just uncovered another standard Zwitter, and since there was no such thing as VWoA before April 1955 its entirely possible that you could get whatever you ordered from whoever you managed to order a car from, I'm thinking Canada also still had MPH speedos in '55 so thats a possibility but Canadian Standards were weird, they stick out if you know what to look for, only the Birth Certificate from VW knows for sure ...
as far as parts no one making anything close to pre '56 pans yet especially in the back half battery area so save what you've got, someone was selling I think 3 NOS wing nut studs here a while back, otherwise just saw the seat rails off some deluxe pans, I'm saving an extra set of brake cables for my '52 from Vintage Parts Inc. but its still working fine with the original cables at 200,000 miles, other than the brakes, transmission and front seats, the rest of the car is in whats lacking more than what is different, the new German brake cables I have are recent production date coded like 2001 or something and are spot on to the originals,
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| There's no such thing as a US spec Standard. VWoA didn't import anything less than a Deluxe. What you've got is a private import. |
Actually, Standards were officially imported into the U.S. until about early 1953.
The only other time Standards were officially imported was for the 1975 model year. The Model 110 was a "Federalized" Standard with a fuel-injected 1600.
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Kombi
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: US Standard. |
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| v8fiero wrote: |
I just picked up a L37 med. blue 1955 standard sedan a few days ago thinking that it was too bad it wasnt a deluxe. But after some looking on the internet US Standards seem farly less common then the Deluxes that were basicly the standard here.
I didnt find much on coverage on US standards, and I would really like to know how many of each year came here versus deluxes.
Are they considerbly "rare" here in the US or just not noticed?
Where do can you find parts to repair the cable brakes? |
Most likely a Canadian Standard or brought back by someone posted to Germany .
Canada had MPH speedo's until Late 70's
Post some more details and people can fill in the gaps.
Does it have semaphores? Then it will be from europe.
Canadian standards had semaphores for '54 model but no longer ad them in '55. Having Said that didn't L37 end in Aug '54?
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mrjobe
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: US Standard. |
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Most likely a Canadian Standard or brought back by someone posted to Germany .
Canada had MPH speedo's until Late 70's
Post some more details and people can fill in the gaps.
Does it have semaphores? Then it will be from europe.
Canadian standards had semaphores for '54 model but no longer ad them in '55. Having Said that didn't L37 end in Aug '54? |
Its a semiphore equipped car.
cable brakes
top stiched non adjustable seats w/ wingnut mounts
headliner only on top not on pillars
non adjustable doors?? not sure on this one, still learning ovals...
no molding in window seals,
has later 56-59 wheel no three spoke or batwing
grill with clock, only letters are "SF"
motorola transistor radio w/ Black knobs
chrome ribbed door handles
polished side and hood trim. holes are square shaped but not sure if OG
coat hook on passenger side only?
no grey or black trim, handles, trim, etc. is polished/chrome
non crankstart apron. both are correct aprons and look OG
bumpers have towel bars, but im not sure they are OG to the car.
whats with the locking?? steering colluim? it has a pin hanging on a wire and a mechinisim midway on the colluim.
edit: how do i tell if i have ribbed doors? i have it parked right next to my 63' rag and i dont know what to look for. btw: the frame on the vent wing is also body color,
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glutamodo
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: US Standard. |
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| whats with the locking?? steering colluim? it has a pin hanging on a wire and a mechinisim midway on the colluim. |
Do you mean the connection for the horn? It's a brush-holder.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:57 am Post subject: Re: US Standard. |
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| edit: how do i tell if i have ribbed doors? i have it parked right next to my 63' rag and i dont know what to look for. |
Ribbed door info here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=360593 |
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mrjobe
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:43 pm Post subject: Re: US Standard. |
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thanks for the valuble link, they are ribbed doors.
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Kombi
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: US Standard. |
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thanks for the valuble link, they are ribbed doors. |
Just wondering if you double checked your chasis and body numbers.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php
Might be a 54 that was registered as a 55
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I agree that it's most likely a Canadian import. By '55, Volkswagen was only importing Deluxes in the U.S.
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Hi, i am not positive at 100% but I don't think that canadian standard or canadian custom ever came with cable brake. I was always under the impression they only came with hydrolics. My guess is that it is an European standard fitted with mph but not positive at 100%
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In 53 canadian standard used juice brake...
Just have a look at that tread
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1...mp;start=0
It is sad that the Jupiter gray site does not work it was a great site for Canadian Standard or Canadian custom as they were called at the time. It was a cheap deluxe more than a real standard and was equiped with all the safety item of the deluxe...
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Ah, yeah, forgot about the cable brakes!  Yes I had to look in some brochures to see but yeah a Canada Custom would have had hydraulics. The '53 Canada brochure doesn't even mention (main) cable brakes in it.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/53bug_canada/5.jpg
It's gotta be an overseas import then. |
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mrjobe
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: |
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so since i have a non canadian standard beetle is it more valuble then a deluxe? or just odd?
heres some pictures of the car. neither of the car in its current state. ive havent been able to stop myself from working on it since i got it home. ill get some current ones soon. can you ID. the color? Im assuming its a standard only color. i think its L37 med. blue but i couldnt be sure since i couldnt find any reference pictures.
as found in a storage unit in des moines iowa
washed up \, started wet sanding, and going back together
btw: im not a stock nazi, nor am i the sort of person to butcher something rare.
is this car too rare or valueble to make adding hydralic brakes and lowering considerable? I know thats what i would perfer in general, but i want to know if im dealing with something truly special. if so i suppose it would be best to ignore my personal tastes. or pass it on to someone who wouldnt be concerned about cost of properly rebuilding the cable brake system and could resist the urge to lower the car.
PS. the cable brakes are in working condition suprizingly, but the right front cable is broken. and in the name of safety rebuilding the brakes isnt something i could avoid considering whats depending on their performance.
did these things ever have decent stopping power??
Can you ID. this clock?
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I have cable brakes to, with the existing cables oiled/greased again.
I put new lining on the brakeshoes, cleanded the rust and dust.
Now the brakes work fine, after some adjusting as described in the manual, the brakepower is the same on the four wheels, the pedal has a short travel and a solid feeling. This system is safe, if one cable breaks, the other 3 wheels still brakes nice ! Adjusting needs from time to time i think but is easy
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I don't think that European standard have those side chrome moulding but that need to be confirmed.
Steering wheel is deluxe unit, should be 3 spokes.
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| My guess is that it was a european standard that someone bling'd up with some deluxe parts from other cars. ...Or a deluxe body on a euro standard chassis, with some of hte parts from the standard switched over for good measure. Do the vin on the data plate, and the vin on the chassis under the seat match? |
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