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baxsie Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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We are working on cutting out the damaged portion of the spare tire tray. The right side is done:
This "Mystery_Part": fell out of the chassis:
Please let me know if you recognize what that is and where it goes
We have two hoods. One from the White 1975, and one from the yeller 1974. I have no reason to think either is original, since both cars have been bashed up front. The white one has a bump extending below the latch, the yeller one is smooth in that area. Any idea which is more correct for a 1975 LaGrande?
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Thanks for any insight you can offer  _________________ 1975 LaGrande Super Beetle Build Log / Farm boy hinge pin puller / Farm Boy Chassis Rotisserie
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19-VW-74 Samba Member

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baxsie Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| 19-VW-74 wrote: |
| The white hood is correct for 1975. . . . |
Well, that one also is in better shape, so I guess it is the winner Thanks for the research and assurance.
We made some progress on replacing the spare tire well. The heavy bumper supports were munged around a bit. We carefully adjusted them with big blue (8lb hammer) until the cross measurements were the same.
In this shot, we have removed the front ~ 1/2 of the spare tire well:
Here is a test fit of the rough-trimmed new Wolfsburg West Spare Tire Well in place:
Quite encouraging actually. It seems to be a great fit. Much more trimming and fiddling to do. I plan to make some small holes and use sheet metal screws to assure that all the parts are straight and line up with each other before doing any welding. I will assume that the new sheet metal is straight, and that may make it necessary to fudge the bumper supports a bit to line them up. _________________ 1975 LaGrande Super Beetle Build Log / Farm boy hinge pin puller / Farm Boy Chassis Rotisserie
"I'm not getting older, I'm getting bitter."
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Mr.Duncan Samba Member

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| baxsie wrote: |
We are working on cutting out the damaged portion of the spare tire tray. The right side is done:
This "Mystery_Part": fell out of the chassis:
Please let me know if you recognize what that is and where it goes
We have two hoods. One from the White 1975, and one from the yeller 1974. I have no reason to think either is original, since both cars have been bashed up front. The white one has a bump extending below the latch, the yeller one is smooth in that area. Any idea which is more correct for a 1975 LaGrande?
BUMP:
NO BUMP:
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that little plastic part that fell out, it goes under the chassy, infront of the frame head, it serves no perpose as far as i can see (could be wrong)
All i can tell is if you were to fly over a speed bump into a ditch and possibly scrape the bottom of your chasy it could hit that plastic.
Also there is one on the rear of the chasy in the middle of it between the rear torsion bars.
I could take photos... |
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baxsie Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr.Duncan wrote: |
that little plastic part that fell out, it goes under the chassy, infront of the frame head, it serves no perpose as far as i can see (could be wrong)
All i can tell is if you were to fly over a speed bump into a ditch and possibly scrape the bottom of your chasy it could hit that plastic.
Also there is one on the rear of the chasy in the middle of it between the rear torsion bars . . . |
Interesting. I'll look for the place where it might fit. Maybe it was just to hold the chassis up during assembly or something,
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| . . . I could take photos... |
A pic would be great if it is not too much trouble. _________________ 1975 LaGrande Super Beetle Build Log / Farm boy hinge pin puller / Farm Boy Chassis Rotisserie
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alex857 Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:01 am Post subject: |
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The rubber thing is a water drainage valve!
It belongs into the hole in the middle of the frame fork at the end of the chassis between the torsion bars. You can also install two at each side end of the frame head to keep water out (what I did on my super).
Link: http://www.kaeferland-shop.de/index.php?action=sho...6.43451095 |
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Mr.Duncan Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:24 am Post subject: |
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The rubber thing is a water drainage valve!
It belongs into the hole in the middle of the frame fork at the end of the chassis between the torsion bars. You can also install two at each side end of the frame head to keep water out (what I did on my super).
Link: http://www.kaeferland-shop.de/index.php?action=sho...6.43451095 |
Niffity! mines all mushed up from age and crap hitting it. |
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baxsie Samba Member
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baxsie Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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I went ahead and ordered new fenders from CIP1. I decided the worry of the old fenders either not matching, cheaper construction than the modern CIP ones. I _know_ that all the old ones need various levels of body work, and I only _suspect_ that one is OG.
In what may make purists choke, we decided to add an early Wolfsburg crest and early VW emblem to the hood. Since we need a wide (old style) trim piece to match up with the Wolfsburg crest, we decided to use the early style trim (in stainless) for the entire car. A side benefit of going to the wider trim is that it will be easier to hide where this car was "de-chromed".
I also got some new tail lights, new lenses for the front turn signals, and some LED pucks to place in the new lights.
I decided to try one of these "Mexi Hood Seals":
http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Front-Hood-Seal-Beetle-and-Superbeetle-Mexibug-p/mexihoodseal.htm
I'm on the fence about if that will work well. _________________ 1975 LaGrande Super Beetle Build Log / Farm boy hinge pin puller / Farm Boy Chassis Rotisserie
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Rome Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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On the white '68 from which you cut the rear quarter panels- Remember that the size of the rear window is different than on your '75. The '68's is slightly narrower. The full width size from your '75 started with the '72 model year. If you can trim the rusty metal close to the window edge on the '75 and cut the '68's panel to match, then you'll be OK.
Otherwise you're doing a tremendous job!
Lime Green Metallic is a wonderful color- my '77 Std. Beetle was originally that color, but the PO repainted it an early '70's Camaro green. VW also used it on the '75 Scirocco. Porsche used the same color and called it viper green metallic. |
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baxsie Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| . . . trim the rusty metal close . . . |
We plan to make the smallest possible hole in the "good" car, and take a correspondingly small patch out of the '68 clip. Really it will just be some "pre-curved" metal.
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| . . . you're doing a tremendous job! |
Thanks for the kind words. Sometimes it seems like an insurmountable task.
We finally disassembled the rack-and-pinion today. The boot was cracked two places and you could see some rust in there. If it wasn't for the rust I was sorely tempted to re-grease it and just slide the new boot on.
But once we got it apart I am glad we tore into it.
Here are the parts cleaned up:
There is some wear:
The original machining marks on the rack are crosswise (marked by small blue double head arrows). Where it is worn the marks are along the rack (larger orange double head arrow).
The tension things are also worn pretty badly. My first reaction would be to get a new, clean large flat file and dress those surfaces.
There was some really-hard-grease or really-decomposed-rubber that had a kind of pink granular texture. Reminded me a bit of a ruined Pink Pearl eraser. That makes me wonder if I am missing a part in there somewhere.
Any rack-and-pinion experts out there?
Anyone have or know of a exploded rack and pinion diagram?
Edit: the other rack-and-pinion posts:
Here is the post showing cleaning and polishing the 1975 VW Super Beetle Rack-and-Pinion parts:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6411488#6411488
The assembled 1975 VW Super Beetle Rack-and-Pinion post here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6459608#6459608 _________________ 1975 LaGrande Super Beetle Build Log / Farm boy hinge pin puller / Farm Boy Chassis Rotisserie
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baxsie Samba Member
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Looks like you have a bug problem. |
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hobbybob517 Samba Member

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Looks like you have a bug problem. |
yeah , there's one big one standing in the corner of the workshop, can't seem to chase it away, eating all my hard earned cash  _________________ THE BUILD http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php
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3 million rpm? Well there's your problem! No wonder it blew up! |
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76VwBug1600 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:20 pm Post subject: haha |
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| Im there with ya bud 2 bugs and not enough money ever |
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baxsie Samba Member
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I keep finding things out that I did not know. I was very surprised to find a beefy side-impact beam in the door:
I do not remember a beam like that on my 1972 1302 Super. When were those added? _________________ 1975 LaGrande Super Beetle Build Log / Farm boy hinge pin puller / Farm Boy Chassis Rotisserie
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