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old_man
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 Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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This week's issue: the blinkers.
-4 ways work fine,
-turn signals work fine,
-BUT the green indicator arrows in the dash stay on all the time, even when the turn signals are not in use. When the turn signals are in use they do not flash at all. The click-clack-click-clack sound that normally accompanies the use of blinkers is now a more subdued click - - click.
This use to only happen once in a while and just go away after a few minutes of driving.
I'm guessing this is a dirty/stuck contact in that big relay box. Any better guesses? |
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Bobnotch
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old_man
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:31 am Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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| Bobnotch wrote: |
| That would be my guess too. Also check the ground screw that's holding it in place. |
Unfortunately I couldn't take pictures as I smashed my phone lens a couple nights ago.
I believe the problem was a tiny spring that broke. Pardon my lack of technical terms. The spring returns a little metal plate from the 'click' position back to the 'clack' position. I bent what was left of the spring back into shape and reattached.
It sort of works now. It makes the click clack sound but the lights sometimes flash erratically. Are the replacement ones any good? |
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old_man
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| Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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New question for everyone; roughly how much force should it take on the linkage rod to close the cooling flaps?
I just blew a second thermostat and wondering if something is wrong. Could the spring that is holding the cooling flaps open be incorrect and too powerful causing the thermostats too keep failing? |
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W1K1
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:34 am Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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| New question for everyone; roughly how much force should it take on the linkage rod to close the cooling flaps? |
I have mine out right now, it takes very little effort for them to close with the stock spring in place.
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old_man
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:55 am Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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| W1K1 wrote: |
I have mine out right now, it takes very little effort for them to close with the stock spring in place. |
Is that pushing in the actual flaps or pulling on the roof underneath? |
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:48 am Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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| W1K1 wrote: |
I have mine out right now, it takes very little effort for them to close with the stock spring in place. |
Is that pushing in the actual flaps or pulling on the roof underneath? |
If you're pushing in on the flaps, you're closing them. If I remember right, the flaps spring is basically a long dual carb spring, so it's pretty soft (not stiff).
Maybe your linkage is binding somewhere?
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old_man
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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If you're pushing in on the flaps, you're closing them. If I remember right, the flaps spring is basically a long dual carb spring, so it's pretty soft (not stiff).
Maybe your linkage is binding somewhere? |
I don't remember it binding anywhere but I will check again. I remember the flaps being easy to close by hand but it requiring more effort when pulling on the rod due to lack of mechanical advantage.
I'm just trying to figure out why I blew 2 thermostats. It could be that they are 50 years old and fatigued. It could be that I tested them with out having them int he bracket which could weakened them. Or maybe there is something wrong with the flaps. |
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:46 am Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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| old_man wrote: |
If you're pushing in on the flaps, you're closing them. If I remember right, the flaps spring is basically a long dual carb spring, so it's pretty soft (not stiff).
Maybe your linkage is binding somewhere? |
I don't remember it binding anywhere but I will check again. I remember the flaps being easy to close by hand but it requiring more effort when pulling on the rod due to lack of mechanical advantage.
I'm just trying to figure out why I blew 2 thermostats. It could be that they are 50 years old and fatigued. It could be that I tested them with out having them int he bracket which could weakened them. Or maybe there is something wrong with the flaps. |
Yes, for testing them, they should be in the bracket. This is to keep them from over expanding. If you did your testing without it being in the bracket, you could have caused premature damage to them.
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64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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old_man
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| Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:23 am Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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Here is the first one I had, the second one, and now I installed the third. The second one is a different temperature so that's why, I think, the number of bellows are different.
I couldn't find the failure of the first one but I think I found it on the second one. Cracked solder. In theory this could be fixed but I am not sure I am going to.
When I replaced it I discovered the spring had become loose. This went from a 20min job to a 90min job. Taking that upper tin off is a very involved process. I hope to do not it again. |
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old_man
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| Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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So I was having problems with stability at speeds of 70 mph and above. It would really dance all over the place if there was a bit of wind. A bit of research led me to believe it was the front end getting really light due to aerodynamics.
$11 from a junkyard and the problem seems to be solved.
It's off an old Jaguar XJS, I just had to trim the ends. I still have to do some more testing and I may put a couple metal brackets behind it as a backing but it seems to be working.
Asethetically I don't think it's very obtrusive or even noticeable. |
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W1K1
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| Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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So I was having problems with stability at speeds of 70 mph and above. It would really dance all over the place if there was a bit of wind. A bit of research led me to believe it was the front end getting really light due to aerodynamics.
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I made a copy of the Kamei off the wifes superbeetle, at 100 mph it is smooth on my 65 square, even in the wind
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:44 am Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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| old_man wrote: |
So I was having problems with stability at speeds of 70 mph and above. It would really dance all over the place if there was a bit of wind. A bit of research led me to believe it was the front end getting really light due to aerodynamics.
$11 from a junkyard and the problem seems to be solved.
It's off an old Jaguar XJS, I just had to trim the ends. I still have to do some more testing and I may put a couple metal brackets behind it as a backing but it seems to be working.
Asethetically I don't think it's very obtrusive or even noticeable. |
Check the front tire pressure, as it might be too high. These cars like 18-20 psi on the front, and 28-30 in the rear.
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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old_man
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| Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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Check the front tire pressure, as it might be too high. These cars like 18-20 psi on the front, and 28-30 in the rear. |
I just checked. 28/29 in the rear. 20/21 in the front. |
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oxsign
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| Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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| old_man wrote: |
So I was having problems with stability at speeds of 70 mph and above. It would really dance all over the place if there was a bit of wind. A bit of research led me to believe it was the front end getting really light due to aerodynamics.
$11 from a junkyard and the problem seems to be solved.
It's off an old Jaguar XJS, I just had to trim the ends. I still have to do some more testing and I may put a couple metal brackets behind it as a backing but it seems to be working.
Asethetically I don't think it's very obtrusive or even noticeable. |
I'll be honest, I didn't even notice it till the 3rd pic, lol. If it works, that's all that matters. As long as it's not some crazy "Fast & Furious" chin guard, lol.
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old_man
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| Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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| Out of curiosity, anyone ever install an altitude corrector into their solexes? I'm not really at altitude these days, just wondering if anyone had ever used one. |
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ibjack
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| Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:51 am Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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| Out of curiosity, anyone ever install an altitude corrector into their solexes? I'm not really at altitude these days, just wondering if anyone had ever used one. |
I’ve got them in my automatic 68 T34. Runs similar to my 64 T34 without.
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old_man
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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So I've been chasing an overheating problem. I don't think it's anyone one thing wrong but rather a series of things that add up.
One of them might have been my single relief spring being tired. So I bought a new one. I read all the warnings about how new ones are the wrong length but I think I managed to find one......so I ordered 10 of them.
Here is the old one; that is no longer the correct length, and here is the new one; that is the correct length.
I created a rudimentary spring tester to see if it had the correct spring force according to Bentley and it was bang on. Well, at least as close as my spring tester could measure. I then tried to measure the old one but then my spring tester broke. It set the spring flying across the shop. I haven't found it yet.
Here is the invoice from where I got them. They are on clearance and very cheap so I thought I would spread that info if anyone else needs one.
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old_man
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| Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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Out with the old and in with the new (well, rebuilt anyways). The old one was giving me troubles every now and then necessitating a gentle tap with a hammer to get it working. Not fun in a rainy parking lot. I took it apart and the wires on the brushes that, I think, were contacting the housing. It helped but it still gave me trouble.
Amazon had a sale on this thing so I went for it. Hopefully it doesn't give me troubles. Not sure what I should do with the old one.
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:29 am Post subject: Re: My 67 Squareback |
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Out with the old and in with the new (well, rebuilt anyways). The old one was giving me troubles every now and then necessitating a gentle tap with a hammer to get it working. Not fun in a rainy parking lot. I took it apart and the wires on the brushes that, I think, were contacting the housing. It helped but it still gave me trouble.
Amazon had a sale on this thing so I went for it. Hopefully it doesn't give me troubles. Not sure what I should do with the old one.
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Is the new for an automatic? Just asking as it's very large. As for the old one, I'd hang on to it, as it does work (sometimes). Maybe rebuild it.
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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