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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Body Changes.... How is my 91 different from your 80? Reply with quote

Discussion on rear lid differences.......

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: Body Changes.... How is my 91 different from your 80? Reply with quote

Recently I replaced the rear cabinet. It did not have the rear most door. I sourced another door for it. However as you can see it doesn't quite fit properly. The top shape is a little too narrow for the opening. I had another rear door and it too was the same size. The cabinet looks like a normal westy brown one. It apparently there was a small change made at some point. Anyone familiar with this better yet do they need my door and have one that fits my opening?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:38 am    Post subject: Re: Body Changes.... How is my 91 different from your 80? Reply with quote

Recently I replaced the rear cabinet. It did not have the rear most door. I sourced another door for it. However as you can see it doesn't quite fit properly. The top shape is a little too narrow for the opening. I had another rear door and it too was the same size. The cabinet looks like a normal westy brown one. It apparently there was a small change made at some point. Anyone familiar with this better yet do they need my door and have one that fits my opening?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Body Changes.... How is my 91 different from your 80? Reply with quote

No way?? Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Body Changes.... How is my 91 different from your 80? Reply with quote

OddN wrote:
Actually, it was more of a model change.

All Joker/Club Joker models have the tall door. And all California/Atlantic have the shorter door.

California first appeared in late 88, and the Atlantic in early 89. But there were some overlap Joker production after that (up to 90 I believe).


Hate to be a pedant, but my Euro spec 1989 Joker has the short door.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Body Changes.... How is my 91 different from your 80? Reply with quote

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D Clymer wrote:
Just thought of another one. The rear apron below the rear bumper on the really early vans didn't have the notch in the center. The notch was added so there was clearance for the Westfalia style tow-hook.

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By "Slot" I am guessing you mean this dimple (beneath my hitch)....

Does anyone have a photo of a non "Slotted" early rear apron?

1986 rear apron......

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On the topic of the "slot" or "depression" in the center of the bodywork under the rear bumper, I've been researching this by looking at tons of photos.

All the 1985 & later vans have the depression.
All the 1983 & earlier vans don't have it.
In 1984 almost all DON'T have it but a few (perhaops late production) seem to have the slot.

For those of you with 1984 vans, can you please chime in on whether your '84 has the depression or not?
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I've seen many times where the year of the van is not what the owner actually thinks it is. There seems to be so few photos of 1984 vans with the slot that I'm considering that those few might actually be 1985 models.

Check your year with the VIN decoder here:
https://www.vanagons.org/
Scroll down, the VIN table is at the bottom. 8th character from the RIGHT will be an E for 1984 models.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Body Changes.... How is my 91 different from your 80? Reply with quote

10/83 production on my Ď84, I donít have the recess.
I bet itís a end of production thing as the Ď85 models drew near to being built in later Ď84.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Body Changes.... How is my 91 different from your 80? Reply with quote

Thanks jlrftype7!

Anyone else with an '84 than can check for their "slot"?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Body Changes.... How is my 91 different from your 80? Reply with quote

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Winston was built in January of 1984. Hope this helps!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Body Changes.... How is my 91 different from your 80? Reply with quote

My 84 has the notch.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Body Changes.... How is my 91 different from your 80? Reply with quote

One of my parts vans was built in 3/84. It has the notch.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:12 am    Post subject: Re: Body Changes.... How is my 91 different from your 80? Reply with quote

The lower driver`s side sill also has a different profile.
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