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mikewire  Samba Member

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Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 11:21 am Post subject: Re: Zach's Progress thread on the 1972 Westy |
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Am I missing a retention track for this cover panel?
This is the "dead" side - no sliding door. I'm trying to figure out how the cover panel attaches at the top.
I'm not seeing the retainer in my parts bins, and it looks like the PO maybe had it just pop-riveted in top center, but I don't really know.
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No retention track on that side - there's a rubber/vinyl bead that fits along the top edge where it drops into the track, and screws that secure the bottom to the small retaining arms there in your picture. _________________ -Mike
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1972 VW Kombi 9 Passenger Deluxe 221(5) w/ 2.0L F.I. VWAC swap
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vacca_rabite Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Zach's Progress thread on the 1972 Westy |
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| mikewire wrote: |
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Am I missing a retention track for this cover panel?
This is the "dead" side - no sliding door. I'm trying to figure out how the cover panel attaches at the top.
I'm not seeing the retainer in my parts bins, and it looks like the PO maybe had it just pop-riveted in top center, but I don't really know.
Zach |
No retention track on that side - there's a rubber/vinyl bead that fits along the top edge where it drops into the track, and screws that secure the bottom to the small retaining arms there in your picture. |
Do you have a picture? There is no track for the cover to drop into, unless I'm missing your meaning.
Zach _________________ 1972 T2 Bay Westy in restoration
1976 Porsche 914
195? Empi Sportster Dune Buggy
1981 Rabbit Truck
1987 Vanagon Syncro GL tin top camper. |
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mikewire  Samba Member

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vacca_rabite Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 11:05 am Post subject: Re: Zach's Progress thread on the 1972 Westy |
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Okay, got that fixed.
I went to ACME in Harrisburg and they let me look at their 2 parts bays. A couple minutes with a screwdriver and a spot weld cutter and I had the retraining track I needed for my bus.
Cleaned it up, laid down a lite coat of zinc. Clamped into place.
Burned it in.
The zinc I used was causing some contact errors with my welder. So I had to scratch to start and turn the heat up to get the penetration I wanted.
Yay! The cover is back on!
Zach _________________ 1972 T2 Bay Westy in restoration
1976 Porsche 914
195? Empi Sportster Dune Buggy
1981 Rabbit Truck
1987 Vanagon Syncro GL tin top camper. |
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mikewire  Samba Member

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vacca_rabite Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: Zach's Progress thread on the 1972 Westy |
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Bus is all masked up and ready for exterior paint. Hoping to get it in epoxy and a couple coats of hi-build tomorrow.
Masking off these ducts SUCKED. First one took an hour to figure out how to do it. Second took about 20 minutes.
My trusty companion kept me company during a rainy muggy day in the garage while I was working.
The day started and ended with cleaning the bus. Then adding filler where I noticed low spots. Masking while the filler dried. Sanding filler. Adding more filler. Sanding that. Then washing the bus again. And since it was about 100% humidity, the bus just would not dry. So at about 10pm I decided that the exterior epoxy coat would just get done tomorrow morning.
Lots of progress today. Painting always takes so long.
Zach _________________ 1972 T2 Bay Westy in restoration
1976 Porsche 914
195? Empi Sportster Dune Buggy
1981 Rabbit Truck
1987 Vanagon Syncro GL tin top camper. |
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Abscate  Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 12:54 am Post subject: Re: Zach's Progress thread on the 1972 Westy |
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Good dog. Good Bus. Good Zach
A Scout is โฆโฆ..patientโฆ..+11 other things _________________ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐ ๐ ๐ |
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vacca_rabite Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 5:56 am Post subject: Re: Zach's Progress thread on the 1972 Westy |
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Hah! A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent. I'm a scoutmaster for my eldest and a den leader for my youngest, I have to say that twice a week.
Bus is all one color again.
In these pics the bus is in Epoxy. So much nicer then the urban camo scheme of bare metal, pearl white, elm green, primer, old epoxy, body filler.
Of course once one color it was a lot easier to see all the divots I missed. So it got another round of filler and then another 2 coats of epoxy. Right now it also has 2 coats of high build primer on it, and will get another 2 coats probably Thursday. And then all the guide coat and sanding starts. I HATE that part.
Zach _________________ 1972 T2 Bay Westy in restoration
1976 Porsche 914
195? Empi Sportster Dune Buggy
1981 Rabbit Truck
1987 Vanagon Syncro GL tin top camper. |
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Buggeee Samba Member

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vacca_rabite Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: Zach's Progress thread on the 1972 Westy |
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Big update. Tons of work go done this long weekend.
Friday afternoon I block sanded all the bus and found several low points that needed to come up.
Like these.
So more filler was added. I used a glaze product (holy crikey it was expensive too).
Lots of sanding and cleaning and the bus was looking like urban camo again, but was much more flat. Also LOTS of pushing the bus in and out of the garage. and vacuuming the garage for dust control.
Buy Saturday morning I was able to get another coat of epoxy on to seal the filler.
And boy did it look better!
So I put another half gallon of high build on it. Rubbed in some guide coat. And did a bunch more block sanding. All. Day. Saturday. From 240 and starting with the 320.
I also smoked up some ribs Saturday.
After dinner I got right back to it.
Here is a walkaround of the bus when I finally wrapped up Saturday night.
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Sunday I went for a bike ride and Amy picked up the sanding duties.
40 miles on a Sunday morning.
When I got home we pushed the bus out again. Did the final sanding and washed it down. I went out and tried to find some wax and grease remover. 5 stores later and I finally had it. We wrapped up around 10 pm, pretty exhausted.
Monday morning we got up early and wiped the bus down with the wax and grease remover. And then gave it a sponge bath with water to clean off whatever residue was left over. Let the bus dry (today was hot, so it dried quickly) and out I went to paint.
EVERY DAMN TIME.
I need to make a post of all the times I let my beard out of the respirator while painting and then had to shave it off.
I ran out of paint 1.5 coats in, so I have to go out tomorrow and get more. Which means I'll have to spend 1/2 a day scuffing the entire bus before I can paint the rest. But I'll get that done this week. By Friday afternoon I should be able to put another several coats of paint on. And then this phase is done, and I can start color sanding.
Zach _________________ 1972 T2 Bay Westy in restoration
1976 Porsche 914
195? Empi Sportster Dune Buggy
1981 Rabbit Truck
1987 Vanagon Syncro GL tin top camper. |
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Ceckert64 Samba Member

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vacca_rabite Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: Zach's Progress thread on the 1972 Westy |
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So, question: I'm not getting many responses to this thread. Is this common on build threads?
At lunch today I pushed the bus back out in the sun. Since I ran out of paint last weekend, I had to scuff everything. And I noted some fisheyes on the door panel. So I got some 400 grit sandpaper and sanded them down till I cleared the fisheyes. Then washed, degreased, and washed again until my lint free shop rags came back clean.
So this panel of the bus looks like this again:
The rest of the bust looks good, and I should be able to get many coats of paint on it tomorrow during the day.
I'm pushing a little to get the base paint done this week - tomorrow really.
I'm driving to Texas on Monday for a week, and then the summer is a whirlwind of Cub scout camp, Boy Scout camp, 914 trips, new engine install in the 914, etc. June and July are just packed. I want the paintwork done so that when I'm working I can focus on mechanical and electrical work.
Paint will be a huge mile stone.
When that done I can rebuild the carbs (no reason to rebuild them before paint and then clog them with paint dust).
New fuel lines.
Put in the new wire loom.
Install windows and seals.
Add a driver seat
And suddenly I should be able to drive the bus again. From that point its a driving restoration to get the interior to where Amy wants it to be.
The end of June will be about 1 year from the day I bought it. So far this is the fastest project I've done.
Zach _________________ 1972 T2 Bay Westy in restoration
1976 Porsche 914
195? Empi Sportster Dune Buggy
1981 Rabbit Truck
1987 Vanagon Syncro GL tin top camper. |
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vacca_rabite Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Zach's Progress thread on the 1972 Westy |
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So here we are!
Happy with how these vents turned out.
A big day. I got all the base coat on Friday night. This morning I took all the masking off, pushed the bus in the sun and took some pictures.
Tonight after doing a longish hike with the Boy Scouts, and going swimming, I taught Amy how to rope in the rear three windows. I did two, she did the rear windows and did great!
Zach _________________ 1972 T2 Bay Westy in restoration
1976 Porsche 914
195? Empi Sportster Dune Buggy
1981 Rabbit Truck
1987 Vanagon Syncro GL tin top camper. |
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vacca_rabite Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: Zach's Progress thread on the 1972 Westy |
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What size screws are used to hold in the louvered side windows?
Thanks
Zach _________________ 1972 T2 Bay Westy in restoration
1976 Porsche 914
195? Empi Sportster Dune Buggy
1981 Rabbit Truck
1987 Vanagon Syncro GL tin top camper. |
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vacca_rabite Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Zach's Progress thread on the 1972 Westy |
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No updates since June? Shame.
We have made a bit of progress this summer, but also hit some setbacks.
Progress first.
Both carbs have been rebuilt.
A new main harness has been run into the bus.
We have started putting weather stripping into the bus.
We have stripped all the window tint off the windows that were tinted.
But the setback is a sticky one.
This is the issue. On the driver door only, the paint keeps failing and coming up at the beltline bend on the door. I have painted the door two times now. and the paint has failed again at the same place.
The last time I painted the door, I ground the paint back all the way to bare metal, several inches from the point of failure.
Then epoxy, filler, primer and paint. It looked great for about 3 weeks and then failed again at the same place.
I'm going to bring it back to metal and try and paint it again. My best guess is that the epoxy had not finished gassing off before recoating. Just, try and keep things warm and give more time between coats.
Zach _________________ 1972 T2 Bay Westy in restoration
1976 Porsche 914
195? Empi Sportster Dune Buggy
1981 Rabbit Truck
1987 Vanagon Syncro GL tin top camper. |
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vacca_rabite Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: Zach's Progress thread on the 1972 Westy |
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Oh, also this fell into my lap last month.
I'm planning to put it into the bus, though not immediately.
Very good compression. Complete CIS. Came out of a running car that was being converted to electric. Also came with the 915 5 speed transmission.
For now, to get it running, I plan on using the 1.7 for now, and collecting parts to mate the 2.7 to the bus transmission. Then the next winter collect the stuff needed to put the 915 into the mix - but that will require a LOT of work.
Zach _________________ 1972 T2 Bay Westy in restoration
1976 Porsche 914
195? Empi Sportster Dune Buggy
1981 Rabbit Truck
1987 Vanagon Syncro GL tin top camper. |
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Buggeee Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: Zach's Progress thread on the 1972 Westy |
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I dont have a lot of experience, only a few years of playtime with the bodywork.
In that short time, I have sometimes had a heavy spray hand and epoxy primer does not forgive me for it.
I would try it without the epoxy primer. I was tought this way: Filler, if needed, straight to bare metal with no holes (if there are any holes or weld seams use Duraglass as the first filler because it does not absorb moisture). After filler stage is complete, a light coat of etch primer on any bare metal areas. Followed by a few heavy coats of high-build sandable primer on the whole panel. Sand the panel with 150 grit and a foam block to smooth the high build primer. It's ok if it breaks through a little here or there but the goal would be to avoid the break through. Then seal it all with a sealer primer. Then base coat and clear (or just color if using single stage). Oh - and blow every square inch with compressed air after each sanding session to clear out any pin holes before applying the next stage. Otherwise the pin holes will be hidden and the dust in them will melt during paint stage, leaving pinholes in your finished surface.
That's just a process my retired body man cousin thought me and it's been working for me.
The Porsche engine is cool! _________________ Big Time 1988 Vanagon Westy
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Abscate  Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:27 pm Post subject: Re: Zach's Progress thread on the 1972 Westy |
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borninabus  Samba R&D Dept.

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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:39 am Post subject: Re: Zach's Progress thread on the 1972 Westy |
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Oh, also this fell into my lap last month.
I'm planning to put it into the bus, though not immediately.
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that escalated quickly
maybe i missed it, but did you go with elm green?
nice choice regardless  _________________ 88 Van WBX, A/T - 93 Multivan 5cyl 5M/T - 13 JSW TDI 6M/T - 2012 Touareg TDI Sport |
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vacca_rabite Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Zach's Progress thread on the 1972 Westy |
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Oh, also this fell into my lap last month.
I'm planning to put it into the bus, though not immediately.
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that escalated quickly
maybe i missed it, but did you go with elm green?
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It really did escalate quickly. This was not something on my radar until it was. Since I have a new TIV to go into my 914, putting it in the bus made more sense to me, though I'm going to have to do it in phases.
I've found out that the entire rear suspension from a 944 Turbo will bolt into the bus, and will work with the 915. But the first iteration with the /6 will use the bus transmission though I know that is not ideal.
Yeah I went with the Elm Green. I have to repaint the door again which I'm not super thrilled about.
I brought a bunch of wires and switches to rehab while I was hunting - but I was too tired to do much with them at the end of the day. I'm home this weekend, gotta butcher a couple deer and then I'm free to work on wiring.
Zach _________________ 1972 T2 Bay Westy in restoration
1976 Porsche 914
195? Empi Sportster Dune Buggy
1981 Rabbit Truck
1987 Vanagon Syncro GL tin top camper. |
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