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One Year Wonder
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 Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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I , like a lot of others here, have opted for the engine compartment option.
I don't have mine powered up yet, so I can't show it lit up.
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Evil_Fiz
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| Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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| Steelz21 wrote: |
Search Amazon for Lemonbest 12” LED. $15 CDN
It has a running light and turn signals built in. |
Do you have a link to the one you bought? I searched Amazon with the terms you provided and found everything EXCEPT what I was looking for.
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mouse action
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Location: East curse
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| Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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Awesome info,thank you all.
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Redlabel6
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kent70ghia
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| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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I mounted mine as high as I could get it.
I heated it up with a heat gun and curved it a little to match the roof line.
David |
David, hate to tell you this, but your Ghia is on its side. They really better, top up  |
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Crosis
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| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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| Frankly I like the one from the 1980s Porsche 911 |
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Steelz21
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| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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Looks Great, what brand and size did you use?
Jeff |
Search Amazon for Lemonbest 12” LED. $15 CDN
It has a running light and turn signals built in.
I mounted it on a piece of angle aluminum I polished up. The LEDs trip is S elf adhesive but I zip tied it also for safety.
I used a double spade connector at the rear light and a solid body ground.
It can all be removed without a trace. |
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Redlabel6
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udo dreisoerner
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| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:24 am Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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here my tird brake light. it is an aftermarket brake light from the 80's
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rbsurfguy
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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Looks Great, what brand and size did you use?
Jeff
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Steelz21
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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Great idea, safety first. |
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c.j.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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| Ran the ground to the body. |
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sputnick60
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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| Instead of splicing into the the wires I hooked up my brake light by using a double spade on the brake light bulb and ran the ground wire to the negative side of the coil. It works. |
 But wouldn't that only work when the points were closed,,, er open,,, uh, how would that work?  |
I too was wondering about that. The brakes are usually operating with a running engine and wired as described he has a switched earth via the points. The earth is subject to engine speed and dwell angle. Hardly ideal.
There are plenty of earth points nearby, for example on the generator where you can find a nice 4mm threaded hole just askiing for a spade lug.
LEDs are more responsive than filament lights so that might be why SBD has enough light to make him happy with his work methods.
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SBD
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| Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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| Instead of splicing into the the wires I hooked up my brake light by using a double spade on the brake light bulb and ran the ground wire to the negative side of the coil. It works. |
But wouldn't that only work when the points were closed,,, er open,,, uh, how would that work?
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c.j.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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| Instead of splicing into the the wires I hooked up my brake light by using a double spade on the brake light bulb and ran the ground wire to the negative side of the coil. It works. |
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Figment
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| Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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I plan to spend a fair amount of time with a loaded decklid rack, so I put mine up high.
L-61 unit from Watson's. I discarded their pedestal mount and made that little bracket to get it up tighter to the top of the window. Yeah, I know that bracket is going to put a little mooseknuckle in the headliner, but I can live with that.
Turn signals too! 
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e&m_ghia
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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Do you have to remove the rain tray for this type of install?
Thanks in advance.
We didn't remove the rain tray, we used the existing screws to find the screw-holes in the shadows. We did it as a 2 person job - one with clever, nimble fingers (E).
The rain trays in the late Ghia's are only held in by a few screws, so it's not a big deal to remove. (Our Ghia didn't come with it, but it was an easy purchase & install.) |
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carguy4
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Do you have to remove the rain tray for this type of install?
Thanks in advance.
Doing the spring clean-up, thought illustrating the method would be useful to others - this basically makes the 3rd brake light a "separable" task without too many contingencies on clean surfaces, etc. We attached the lights to some vinyl weatherstripping, and then attached that to the upper screw positions in the rain tray. Basic idea:
Looks like this from back (lights off):
(Please excuse poor phone pic colors)
And then, what it looks like in real life:
(Again, excuse phone pic... We also later found out that tail-lights & brake-lights were reversed in harness wires, but you get the idea...)[/quote]
Looks good! That stretch of roadway looks like Baron Cameron Parkway near Lake Anne Center in Reston, VA.[/quote] |
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h~moto
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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| Does the lens require modification or did it drop right in? |
Fits right in. |
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slalombuggy
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: Third brake light |
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I used a Hella bumper mounted reverse light. I replaced the clear lens with a reproduction 1957 and older type II brake light lens.
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Does the lens require modification or did it drop right in?
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