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orangecabriosuper Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2021 Posts: 1 Location: UK Mainland
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:06 am Post subject: Re: fresh air parts? |
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I have a 1971 1302 which seems totally stock and complete. The connection between the vents and the airbox are made by big thick felt things (no snap connectors just make up whole with cotton cloth on the outside and inside) which look original (i.e. they look like they are 50 years old!). I have just replaced the vents through the dash (padded dash) because they had biodegraded in the US heat and it has all gone together well. I had wondered about the felt and the holes and someone said it might be to be with sound deadening - seems to me to make sense because the holes would then allow sound out from the ducts into the felt and so reduce the sound coming down the duct and out of the screen vents. As a bit of chat - when I cleared out the broken cardboard out from the tubes from the floor channels to the chicken foot - I looked down them with a borescope to make sure clear and at the bottom I found a 1967 quarter dollar - it is a 1971 car and the car was imported from the US to the UK in 1990, so it shows my heater channels are original! |
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empi3 Samba Member

Joined: October 03, 2015 Posts: 380 Location: SW Wyoming
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 6:44 am Post subject: Re: fresh air parts? |
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RichNJohn wrote: |
In the diagram it shows item 30 which might be some sort of seal but I can't tell for sure. |
Looks like it's a plastic bushing.
30 113 819 607 Bush - Knob - Fresh air control on instrument panel
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D113%2D819%2D607
Hope that helps
Steven _________________ The fact someone posts a thousand messages a month does not mean the messages contain anything worth reading.
Bob Hoover
1970 Beetle
1956 Ragtop Beetle
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RichNJohn Samba Member
Joined: April 07, 2017 Posts: 91 Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: fresh air parts? |
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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/717871.jpg
I'm trying to put the dash back together on my 72 super beetle and I'm not sure if I am missing parts. Specifically, air from the trunk comes into the cab around the base of the air box knobs. Is there supposed to be some kind of seal or grommet around the base of the knobs?
In the diagram it shows item 30 which might be some sort of seal but I can't tell for sure. |
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mochito441 Samba Member
Joined: September 13, 2016 Posts: 71 Location: california
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: fresh air parts? |
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Does anyone know if #14 are starlock washers and if they are what size are they? Where can I find this picture with parts name? |
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71 SUPERRED Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2013 Posts: 3 Location: SWFL, USA
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:18 pm Post subject: Part #23 |
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Can anyone tell me where to find the rubber flap #23 that goes in the fan housing or how to make one?
I took my air box apart and both flaps are hard and dried out, when i touched one of them it broke apart...
Thanks :shock:http://www.artsurveyor.com/samba/1972_sb/fresh_air_vent/fresh_air_box_late.jpg |
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cuizable Samba Member

Joined: March 16, 2008 Posts: 176
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forested665 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2010 Posts: 258 Location: Harriman
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:56 am Post subject: |
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wow.. the area where the fresh air intake is is almost in a vacuum no wonder they added the fan. now if you had a longer scoop that opened mid way down the hood and everything was sealed up you would be getting some massive airflow |
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cuizable Samba Member

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snowymonkey Samba Member

Joined: December 09, 2007 Posts: 652 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:56 am Post subject: |
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I had one of those hood scoops and it dosen't help as much as you think. It does increase the flow, but it's more for looks. _________________ "The music moves me, but it moves me ugly"
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cuizable Samba Member

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Billy Byars Samba Member
Joined: January 14, 2009 Posts: 38 Location: Clarkesville, Ga
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Tele68...called Mid America and ordered part #301-974 Power Vent Duct insulation $14.99 (pair).
Will also try the 2" vinyl tube. Right now I have milk jug plastic wrapped and taped around the two pieces...gives a good tight fit, but a pain to undo and work in those areas(left or right side). My fan works great...but if I could find the HOOD AIR SCOOP that wold increase the air flow. |
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snowymonkey Samba Member

Joined: December 09, 2007 Posts: 652 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:56 am Post subject: |
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Just throwin this out there. Trimmed down pringles can covered by left over automotive carpet, all held in place by zip ties. I know it sounds redneck, but it works. _________________ "The music moves me, but it moves me ugly"
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cuizable Samba Member

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flierbob Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2008 Posts: 538 Location: Silverdale WA
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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I think the cloth covering over the holes is for a muffler effect to make it quieter like the covers on the heat muf under rear seat. maybe
Bob |
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tele68 Samba Member

Joined: September 18, 2009 Posts: 389 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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FYI, Mid America has the padded connector sleeves with the snaps and all the correct size aluminum hoses for this set up at reasonable cost. Just did mine all back to stock and it works great, air everywhere...hint, use a piece of 2" vinyl air hose (any FLOPS sells it) under the snap connector for a nice air tight fit, also helps hold the dash vent ducts in place. _________________ '72 Super Beetle
Central Jersey Volkswagen Society
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66foot Samba Member

Joined: November 19, 2006 Posts: 398 Location: Pacific Grove, California
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Billy -
Mine has always had just the cloth material for the Fresh Air Box Dampner .
Pat (66foot)
_________________ "The perfect race car crosses the finish line in first place and then falls to pieces."
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Billy Byars Samba Member
Joined: January 14, 2009 Posts: 38 Location: Clarkesville, Ga
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:45 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Gary(sorry, I don't know what closed tag is?), Foreste665 and 66Foot.
66Foot, is there anything under the snapped cloth wrap to cover the holes and get better air flow? |
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66foot Samba Member

Joined: November 19, 2006 Posts: 398 Location: Pacific Grove, California
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Super Beetle Schematic for Fresh Air Box
Pat (66foot) _________________ "The perfect race car crosses the finish line in first place and then falls to pieces."
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KirkeVonPhilly Samba Member

Joined: February 07, 2010 Posts: 54 Location: Philadelphia
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forested665 Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2010 Posts: 258 Location: Harriman
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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your not the first person to be looking for this.
aluminum flex hose (the spiral stuff like for your motor but the cheaper uninsulated kind) can be used along with a clamp and if your fan works you should get better airflow especially if you find that scoop.
The original piece is four or five layers of thickwool cotton like is used for dampening hifi speakers. it had a push snap like for childrens pants pressed into each corner to hold it together.
it is more thermally insulated but it does leak and the hot air gets blown into part number one anyway so theres no thermal loss issue. if there was any loss it would only be a factor in the summer where it would be welcomed. |
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