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vanagonjr Samba Member

Joined: October 07, 2010 Posts: 3635 Location: Dartmouth, Mass.
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:23 am Post subject: |
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I like my weekender interior, but one thing I miss from my full westy is the tray above the kitchen unit. Seems like that always held sun cream, bug dope and all the misc small things. IMHO, that would be a good addition to the Weekender.
I plan to replace the bulk head under the rear seat with a straight vertical wood one to increase the storage room slightly. Would allow adding a magazine rack, LED floor lights, maybe a cut-out or two for a small book shelf for guide books.
I really hope to get to Nova Scotia this summer, but the family will have their own ideas. _________________ John - 86 Wolfsburg Westfalia "Weekender"
Flint reversed 1.8T W/Passat 5-Speed
LiMBO (late model bus club) www.limbobus.org
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Jeff's Old Volks Home Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2011 Posts: 819 Location: Chester Basin, Nova Scotia
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:07 am Post subject: |
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So, I'm leaning towards converting my 1980 rust-less westy to syncro, and install the 91 weekender interior. Of course going though everything, and maybe even building a custom removable kitchen unit. I never cook in any of my previous Westys, but I do like water, heated too, for washing up and the like...
I'm definitely going diesel, not sure what yet, but it'll likely be AAZ. I'll run a locker transmission with the same gearing as my Doka, .70 4th, which lets the engine run at 2800rpm at 100kph with 215/75R16 General Grabber2 tires. That's GPS 100kph, not speedo KPH...
Keep the ideas coming.
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bjrogers86auto Samba Member

Joined: March 26, 2009 Posts: 1377 Location: Halifax, N.S.
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:36 am Post subject: doka |
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Welcome to the samba Jeff! Let the kookiness begin!
Based on some personal experience(Jeff has worked on my van) I know you are going to keep the engine VW. Not being a speed freak I'm thinking a juiced up Tdi is the only way to go. A picture of the Doka's engine would make everyone on here drool with envy! The torque would be sweet to have cruising the back roads around here and all our East Coast scenery.
Having owned my Westy for just over 3 years I think I would pick a weekender if I had a choice. I know a guy(me) who would really enjoy making some custom cabinets to fit my camping style a little better. We don't use the kitchen at all and could really benefit with a different set-up.
Having had a few conversations with you I know better than to make too many suggestions on a mechanical level. That's why I take my van to you! I know a little about the Synchro Envy Syndrome. It hasn't hit me yet. I'm more than happy with my 2wd.
Straight from the horse's mouth.
Merry Christmas to all those who celebrate it and best wishes to everyone!
Brian. _________________ 2020 T@B 320 Teardrop(Has been van guy)
21 Ford Ranger XLT
19 Honda Civic Hatchback
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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I'm considering putting Jalousies in the middle windows and put one of the 1/2 sliders in the rear passenger. If you go that route, could you document it well, please. _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
83.5 Vanagon L Riviera Model with 98 1.9L TD AAZ 4 speed Daily Driver 3 out of 4 seasons (sold)
84 Vanagon GL Wolfsburg Westy WBX 4 speed (sold) |
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photogdave Samba Member

Joined: April 05, 2004 Posts: 3145 Location: Vancouver Island, B.C.
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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If it was me I'd customize the weekender. I have an '82 and an '89 Westy and I find the newer one more refined and nicer to drive. With the weekender you have a more open platform to customize to suit your tastes and you don't have to go through the hassle of cutting the roof to add a poptop or hightop.
I'm sure this will be a fun project to watch! _________________ 89 Syncro GL Westfalia 2.1 WBX/WBXaustSS
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edgood1 Samba Member

Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 2133 Location: Plymouth, MA
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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I saw your truck at t-fest. It was bad ass! it was my vote for #1.
I didn't get to meet up with you though....maybe next year.
I say go all out. You have the parts and the skills. Build something that you can use and treasure at the same time.
If I were to do it all over again (and I probably will) I would build a Westy Weekender with some form of Turbo diesel motor.... possibly with a custom automatic transmission (so the wife can drive it). good mpg would be a must. I still have a crazy urge to build a super stretch vanagon.
this will be when the '63 restoration is completed (stay tuned). I feel like I enjoy working on/building/hacking vanagons more than the old stuff these days. _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia powered by Subaru
1963 Panel to Deluxe Bus project :::: (photo album)
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vanagonjr Samba Member

Joined: October 07, 2010 Posts: 3635 Location: Dartmouth, Mass.
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, a lot of choices! I'd say the 91 Syncro Weekender with MTDi. I'd add a sink, ice box unit behind the passenget seat. For 2, I think this would work fine.
However a panel van would allow you to add the windows of your choice, and skip one where the rear cabinet is. I'd probably just mount bay Jalousie windows on the slider and side opposite and an RV slider window on passenger rear side and a flip-out window in the reat hatch.
I'm sure it will look good based on what I saw at Transporterfest.
PS - I might want some travel info on Nova Scotia. _________________ John - 86 Wolfsburg Westfalia "Weekender"
Flint reversed 1.8T W/Passat 5-Speed
LiMBO (late model bus club) www.limbobus.org
LiMBO is on Facebook too! https://www.facebook.com/groups/
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Salem7 Samba Member

Joined: January 24, 2010 Posts: 217 Location: Washington County, New York
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Nice to see you here!
I enjoyed our chat about diesel engine upgrades at Transporterfest.
Good luck on your project, what ever you decide. If it is anything like your Doka it will be great. _________________ 1982 Westfalia 1.6NA diesel. Converted to Turbo 1.6 and sold.
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Larry Davick Samba Member

Joined: August 31, 2011 Posts: 75 Location: Fremont, California U.S.A.
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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I am very new to this, and so, rather green. With your expertise and resources I'd simply look to your inventory as parts. You will probably want to touch every system anyhow, so why not start with the rust-free air-cooled chassis and avoid the added body work? Plumb it for HVAC and radiators - they were built as diesels too, so it shouldn't be a total engineering exercise to add this.
Brakes are something that can always be improved, but I'm no expert here. With our Van my first job was to refresh the brake system, but I've gone stock, nothing fancy.
Engine choice is a personal preference - Diesel vs Gas, German vs Japanese, vs American. You choose. I'd go for torque and efficiency over horsepower, but that's me. I like what I've read about the Subaru transplants - they seem to be reliable and powerful enough.
Full Westy pop-top camper with a modern Gasoline / Propane / Diesel heater (your choice.) The pop-top lets you heat or cool a smaller space while keeping the profile low for better wind resistance.
Fridge? I like propane, but a lot of folks go for the Truck Fridge.
If boondocking a lot I'd add a solar panel to the roof and the best deep cycle battery bank space would allow. (What will you do with the old spare tire space?)
Oh, I'd mount the spare tire on a swing away mount at the rear.
Wheels and tires? I like the mild look better than the aggressive 4x4 look. It's personal preference again - you can go as nutty as you like or keep it close to the ground.
Awnings look so very cool at the campsite. Gotta have an awning. A nice radio with connectivity for your iPod and perhaps an audio input for a Television. Maybe not.
I wouldn't change the layout of the interior as I think it's just right. Maybe I'd find the most comfortable seats for Mamma and me and some cup holders, but everything else is just right for me.
I really like the look of the 4 lamp South African grille. This time of year it needs a wreath.
Even though it's the last thing on the list, it's still very important. A nice paint job. Nothing says that the job was done right like a shiny, pretty Vanagon. _________________ 1981 Westy Automatic
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Timwhy Samba Member

Joined: January 01, 2009 Posts: 4093 Location: Maine
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MarkWard Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 18831 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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Well then I take my compliment back.  |
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Zaro Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2011 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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insyncro wrote: |
I would build a Syncro Panel  |
This!  |
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syncrodoka Samba Member

Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12347 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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rsxsr wrote: |
I like your write up on the vanagon clusters. I link members to it all the time. |
That old volks home is in Nor Cal. http://www.oldvolkshome.com/
There is a shop with the same name near me too. |
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buildyourown Samba Member

Joined: March 01, 2009 Posts: 1668 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Syncro panel w/ a hightop and custom cabinets. I wish I could delete the rear windows in my Westy. |
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MarkWard Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 18831 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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A solid chassis is always the best foundation to start with. If it is made out of metal, it can be made to work. Don't know about the radiator support bracket weld nuts, but easily solved. Finishing the lower radiator air inlet would probably be more of a challenge than fitting hoses and the radiator. If you have the skills to convert a 2wd to a syncro, getting the early chassis to work should not impose any unsolvable problems. I can weld and fabricate, but body work is not anything I enjoy. Post lots of pictures and welcome to the Samba. |
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NEUTEILE Samba Member

Joined: December 13, 2011 Posts: 15 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: New to the Samba... What would you do if you were me. |
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Jeff's Old Volks Home wrote: |
Hi All, I'm certainly not new to VW but I am new to this forum. I do plan to contribute when I can and I'm never to proud to ask for help when I need it either.
Here is my conundrum...I've been building Westys and vans for other people for more than 25years, I've built a few for myself, sold them to finance the next project. Except for my Blue Synco TD Doka, which was at Transporter-fest this year, I've had her for 18years! I digress...
I want to build myself the best Westy I can. I own a fully equipped and staffed VW shop on the East Coast, I have a 1991 Syncro passenger van, rusty but complete, at least 6 1986-1991 Panel vans, passenger vans for parts, a 1991 Westy Weekender that has some rust but very repairable, and a 1980 Westy that has NO rust or running gear.
I'm leaning towards mating the syncro running gear with the 1980 rust free chassis.
I have a plethora of engine choices. I really like an AAZ...they can be tuned easily and I have lots of them to rebuild, dito for AHU TDi I have lots of them but they're a bit more work to install, unless I go MTDI, which isn't out of the question. Or the ol' stand by 2.1 DJ or MV, of which I have lots of them as well.
The end result,( says my loving wife) is a van that we'll use and keep for a long time... and take us through our retirement years in style...
What would you build if parts were unlimited and you had the shop and resourses to build your dream westy? Dare to dream! PLUS-I plan to reveal it at next years Transporter-fest...
Blessings to all this Christmas, Jeff |
WOW - like dream come true! And a Merry Christmas to you as well! Looking forward to this. |
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Jeff's Old Volks Home Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2011 Posts: 819 Location: Chester Basin, Nova Scotia
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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insyncro wrote: |
I would build a Syncro Panel  |
Of course you would Dylan..
Jeff |
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Jeff's Old Volks Home Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2011 Posts: 819 Location: Chester Basin, Nova Scotia
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="rsxsr"]I like your write up on the vanagon clusters. I link members to it all the time. While the Air Cooled chassis may be in the best shape, It was not set up for a radiator/cooling system as well as the heating system. It can be done, but I have seen a couple members say it was a lot of extra work to adapt an aircooled chassis to water cooled.
I do have lots of heater boxes. The body is the same. I need to cut a hole for the hoses. I even think the holes are there for the rad supports. correct me if I'm wrong... |
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insyncro Banned

Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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I would build a Syncro Panel  |
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vw7266 Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2004 Posts: 3053 Location: the point, ohio
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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sounds like you have the resources.
I think you need to sell me a set of rubber floor mats out of one of your parts vans for my syncro project!
Alot of people have converted non syncros into syncro's.
Panels are my favorite..but I can understand wanting to have windows at the same time |
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